re: Explosion Reported at Valero Refinery in Texas

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How is this political?

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I'm sure he ran off to tattle after that warning thread we got the other day. Probably figured he could get me in trouble.

Yes glad to hear no injuries reported.

Obviously Mossad.

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I don't see anything suggesting that. If you have something suggesting that, by all means, share it. I'm just bringing the information. Sounds like a major blast. This will have further affect on gas prices.

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I think that's why SFP was suggesting this isn't political

But in your defense...since the reason is unknown it "could" be political. And even if nothing nefarious happened it could just be bad timing and still be political. He was off base on that one. I know the guy personally to be a good dude but that doesn't mean he isn't wrong here.

I have no problem with news like this being posted here.

So it turns out there was a verified threat on the refinery right across the street posted one hour before the explosion and after the explosion the user (a Saudi X account) deleted the threatening post and 4,739 other tweets.

That seems very suspicious and I wonder if sharing that information would be considered an out-of-bounds "conspiracy theory." X posts verified by Grok. Verified to have been deleted immediately following.

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Now it's looking like there may have been foul play. I'll spare the details for now because I got warned the other day about spreading "conspiracy theories", but it looks like some dude posted a warning about this on X about an hour before it happened and then when the explosion happened and the fire broke out

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The ONE GUY that said Valero would be destroyed next week?

Whatever the case may be, there’s more way more people coming out saying it was a heater. Although, I was told it was the Cracker, so who knows?


I was just having a discussion with someone the other day on how easy it would be for a trained professional could get into these refineries. Literally just cut the chain link fence and go set something up. The rent-a-cops who ride around these plants are getting paid $25/hr. Imagine a trained professional gets access to a facility like this, prepared to die, pulls an AR on one of these guys. Or you literally just have to drive through the front gate. No one will or would be able to stop them.

We get hobos inside our facility that fell asleep on the train a few times a year. And these are homeless junkies. Imagine a trained National sent to do a job.

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I was told it was the Cracker

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We know the culprits race already?

Maybe. Maybe not. If they suspect there may be others planning more attacks (just spit balling here) they're more likely to keep quiet on it and use intelligence tools to track suspects without raising their suspicions that they're onto them.

We know Iran has cells inside the US right now. Trump has confirmed it.

In any event, for now the official cause is the heater and if that changes I imagine we will hear more about it at some point.

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I saw Iran claimed “sabotage.”

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See, I hadn't even seen that. It's awful suspicious, whichever way it goes. The odds of that being a natural coincidence would have to be frickin astronomical. Maybe it was a shot in the dark coincidence and the guy got spooked and deleted 4,700 tweets. Either way I suspect he will soon be visited by folks in suits.