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re: Excellent article in The Federalist: "We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives"
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
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Objective analysis is not popular with many here.
You act like you just discovered water in the Atlantic
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
When Hank jumps in to help you, you know you have really fricked up.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:44 am to FightinTigersDammit
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I was banned from an alternative history board for insisting that Trump wasn't putting gays or blacks into camps.
So?
Um, this discussion is about polarity. There's already an acknowledgement of wrongspeak via the Left. It doesn't have to be addressed again.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:45 am to Perfect Circle
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Now think, which of these groups are more likely, and have the means, to dictate your life?
I mean the entire point of OP and the first page or so of this thread was people declaring their desire for this power.
So, if they get their way...the group referenced in OP
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:They're there already, but maybe they'll call the Clash to negotiate.
if Russia is willing to go there.
Darling, you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'till the end of time
So you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know
This indecision's bugging me
If you don't want me, set me free
Come on and let me know
Should I cool it or should I blow?
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:46 am to NC_Tigah
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They're there already,
Again, then the "If" portion is irrelevant. It's a matter of when, not if, unless we all agree to never oppose any act of Russia in perpetuity.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You make the mistake of being objective.
I don't have anything against them and their choices, but permitting those people power over me to dictate my life is scary. Same with anyone who would force me to support Drag Queen Story Hour for children.
For extremists, it is PERFECTLY reasonable to engage in a pattern of coercion, so long as the coercion is directed toward the “proper” ends.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:47 am to Piney Flats
How about Western Culturalists - better than the "uni-Party and with apologies to nobody - because if/when western culture is ever hounded out of existence, the third world will collapse of its own weight.
Gone forever will be free this and free that.
Gone will be free services such as the "Mercy ships," Doctors Without Borders, Operation Smile, Compassion International.
One could go on and on with this.
But, ironically, its best chance of survival could be with Eastern Europe.
Gone forever will be free this and free that.
Gone will be free services such as the "Mercy ships," Doctors Without Borders, Operation Smile, Compassion International.
One could go on and on with this.
But, ironically, its best chance of survival could be with Eastern Europe.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:48 am to AggieHank86
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For extremists, it is PERFECTLY reasonable to engage in a pattern of coercion, so long as the coercion is directed toward the “proper” ends.
You can refine this by using in-out group dynamic and be more accurate with your statement.
To bring it back to OP, that's why labeling is so important for those in a polar mindset.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:48 am to AggieHank86
Exactly. Like say firing people if they don’t take a vaccine or use the wrong pronoun? Great point Hanky.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:49 am to Drizzt
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Exactly. Like say firing people if they don’t take a vaccine or use the wrong pronoun? Great point Hanky.
Again, this is already presupposed in this discussion.
NOBODY is arguing Leftists haven't engaged in this behavior.
To echo Rog on page one:
quote:
Knew this would come. Just going to copy the antics of the left.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Um, this discussion is about polarity. There's already an acknowledgement of wrongspeak via the Left. It doesn't have to be addressed again.
I do appreciate your posts, sincerely and I can for Hank or Displaced at times. The reason you get shite is that the argument is “yeah left is bad, we’ve already covered that, but let’s dig in to the right more.”
The waving away “yes the left is BSC but I’ll write a treatise on where the right makes the same mistakes” just makes people dig in stupidly.
Just my opinion.
XOXO see you on the framed thread.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:51 am to goatmilker
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You act like you just discovered water in the Atlantic
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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To echo Rog on page one:
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Knew this would come. Just going to copy the antics of the left.
What is forcing people to leave me alone?
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:52 am to NC_Tigah
quote:I am going to follow your derail for one post only.
If the Donets is independent or Russian, the whole world must die.... pardon those of us who'd question that "logic."
Very few people would have a problem with the notion of a truly independent (perhaps internationally-monitored) referendum within those regions as to either independence or eventual unification with Mother Russia.
The problem that most people see is that Putin invaded these regions that do NOT have an ethnic Russian majority (Crimea is the only Ukrainian region with such a majority). The ethnic Russian population in those areas is generally below 30%. Closer to 20% in many places. Many ethnic Ukrainians in the region, however, have Russian as a first language. Most of them would prefer to remain in Ukraine, pursuant to every poll I ever saw.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:53 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What is forcing people to leave me alone?
That's not what's discussed in OP
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Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to get used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not what's discussed in OP
I would suggest, it could be. Or at least my hope would be, it’s the ultimate goal.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Now there's some "logic." What further act which warrants destruction of the planet do you suppose Russia is entertaining?
unless we all agree to never oppose any act of Russia in perpetuity.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:56 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What is forcing people to leave me alone?
The Left argued for years they just wanted to be left alone. Then it became you can’t disagree with anything they do and must “celebrate” immorality. Now if you don’t force your own children to be degenerates they want to take them away. There is no “live and let live” now with the Left. It’s what we want but it’s a losing strategy.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/22/22 at 9:56 am to 3nOut
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. The reason you get shite is that the argument is “yeah left is bad, we’ve already covered that, but let’s dig in to the right more.”
It's digging into a specific seft/philosophy of the anti-Left (don't even know if it's "right" anymore, given OP).
People were openly promoting authoritarianism early on in this thread, and much of the current discussion is from that genesis in the discussion tree. Now people (who admittedly aren't the same as those in the genesis portion) are trying to shy away from what's actually being discussed: anti-Left authoritarianism (more specifically, as the only response/solution to Leftism)
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