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re: Everyone just look at this sign and think

Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:23 am to
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We allow car safety regulations (e.g. seatbelts, driving classes, licensing, etc.).


Seatbelts, driving classes, and licensing are not requirements to possess, own, or operate a vehicle.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17414 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:23 am to
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Debatable as the right granted in the 2nd Amendment is far from clear.


So is the fact we give US citizenship to illegal aliens’ babies if they are born in the US. Is that what the 14th was specifically written for?

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That's bigger slippery slope


Really? As far as health care... I seem to remember a large bill just passed that gives the government much more control of health care. One that booted many people off their insurance they were happy with. One that wanted the implementation of socialized medicine that was called the “public option”.

Food? How many people are perpetually on government Assistance?

quote:

You forgot to take your meds this a.m.


And there is the good ole “well I don’t have an answer for this.... so I have to choose. Umm.. race card? No. Ooh. I got it! A non-clever, overused insult. Yea. That’s it.

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:24 am to
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Propaganda is so bad I was watching Hitler Circle of evil on Netflix and the commentaters keep saying hitler regime was a far right movement and yet they are called the socialist party.. I was shocked hearing this from so called experts/historians.

Wait, are you saying that you don't think Hitler's party was right wing because it had socialist in the name?

The full name of the party was The National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler supposedly named it that so he could represent that it was the party of all the people so as to attract the most followers.

They were fascists - far right wing authoritarians in favor of a strong strong central totalitarian government. They were anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist and racists. They believed in subverting individual freedom for the good of the state.

Hitler was certainly not a socialist in any sense of the term.

This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:29 am to
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They quartered, with a large blade, Mel Gibson......

They killed 6 MILLION peaceful Jews..........

Those SOBs in DC proved with Omnibus Bill they dont give a shite about voters only staying in office....

As far as I'm concerned Scalise's "Yes" vote will cause me to vote for his replacement and he needs to come home, crutches and all.......
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17414 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:30 am to
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We allow the government to impose a standard of safety on us all the time. We allow car safety regulations (e.g. seatbelts, driving classes, licensing, etc.). We allow food safety regulations. We allow drug safety regulations. The list is endless.


How many times does this have to be said....

Attention.

Over here.

Listen up.

Driving a car is not a right. It is a privilege. The driving example is invalid.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68204 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:31 am to
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He says something you agree with = gospel He says something you disagree with = joke


You people have no sense of humor whatsoever. Ignorant is no way to go through life.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:39 am to
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Can you truly be free without having safety?

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Uhh.. yes. There are endless examples of you just contemplate it.

Well, since you have seemingly already contemplated it, why don't you give a few examples.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45884 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:41 am to
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At its core it is nothing more/less than a movement of people who recognize that there is a significant number of gun-related deaths in the U.S. which are exponentially higher than other industrialized country and think that certain regulations could be placed on guns to reduce such number of deaths.



If you want to reduce the deaths, why are you talking about gun regulations?

Gun regulation addresses the how, not the why.

The how will just change if the why isn't addressed.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45884 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:43 am to
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Isn't safety part of being free.


No.

quote:

Can you truly be free without having safety?



Yes.

Next question.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:43 am to
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You have people that are wealthy themselves lecturing you on wealth inequality. Some of those people came about their wealth by immoral means. And it’s gobbled up.


this is so damn lazy. your privilege provides and enables you to say such a thing.

So, to be clear, people with wealth shouldn't look behind them? And, some of those people came about their wealth by immoral means?? You're a capitalist, right? What the frick does that even mean?

So I'm clear, a capitalist makes money in America. He now has money; he also has no place to say anything about wealth inequality. Wait, he also received his wealth from the casino industry. So, he absolutely can't say anything about wealth inequality.

But, he does...do you know why?

Many if not most of people he makes money from down south are already poor, on limited incomes. To fully capitalize on his situation, he absolutely needs to lobby the government to increase spending to social programs. Keep these people alive and well enough to spend money at his casinos.



You, Sir, need to take a look and see.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 11:46 am
Posted by abitaman6363
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
467 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:43 am to
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How many times does this have to be said.... Attention. Over here. Listen up. Driving a car is not a right. It is a privilege. The driving example is invalid.


Okay. If you want to be absolutely technical. Laws against incitement.

There is a right to freedom of speech (stated much more clearly in the 1st amendment mind you) and we have legal restrictions against that in the name of safety.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68769 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:49 am to
Has anyone here read Hollis vs Lynch, and do you have an opinion about it?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17414 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:58 am to
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Well, since you have seemingly already contemplated it, why don't you give a few examples


You can’t think of anything?

-Riding a motorcycle. You are expediently more likely to die in a motorcycle crash than a vehicle.

-Traveling to other countries. Seen the crime rate in Mexico? Family of 4 just died there due to toxic gases. How many people are traveling there this summer? There is also travel to Israel where you can be killed by terrorism.

-Building a race car. There are dangerous, yet legal, sanctioned races taking place all over the country. These contests take place on the same tracks where people have been killed.

-Living off the grid. You can live anywhere in Appliachia or rural south living only off the land. That sound safe? You are free though.

Playing sports... skydiving.... bungee jumping... traveling the world in a sailboat... walking over the Grand Canyon on a tightrope.. jumping the fountain at Caesars place on a motorcycle.. any sport on the x games.. building and flying an “experimental aircraft”... living in the south side of Chicago...calling an extremely large and muscular man an a-hole...

There are 10s of thousands of examples.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17414 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:01 pm to
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If you want to be absolutely technical.


It’s not technical. It’s fact. It’s black and white.

And laws against incitement? Well if you are inciting a riot you intend to cause damage or guided others to do so. If you yell fire in a crowded theater when there is none, you had only one intent. That was to cause chaos.

You can buy an AR 15 and not mean any harm what so ever.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17414 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:04 pm to
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this is so damn lazy. your privilege provides and enables you to say such a thing.


Oh man!! Thanks for the laugh!!! Privilege.. welcome to belonging to a group this world is going to chew up and spit out.

Didn’t read any of the other drivel.

I like my coffee black by the way soy boy.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Didn’t read any of the other drivel.


typical.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45884 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:08 pm to
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typical.


Well if you want people to read and take serious what you're writing, you probably shouldn't start up with some made up term like "your privilege."
Posted by abitaman6363
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
467 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:08 pm to
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And laws against incitement? Well if you are inciting a riot you intend to cause damage or guided others to do so. If you yell fire in a crowded theater when there is none, you had only one intent. That was to cause chaos.


The First Amendment is clear:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37432 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Apparently they don't understand that freedom = safety.


There is no safety without freedom
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45884 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:10 pm to
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The First Amendment is clear:


Ya, the SCOTUS fricked that one up. Just like they fricked up not overturning the 1934 NFA (and all subsequent regulations).

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