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re: Everyone I know who is voting for Kamala is doing it only for her abortion stance.

Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:55 am to
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9466 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:55 am to
I found 2 articles. From 2021 and 2023.

2023
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The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.

Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.

By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.

Hours later, she was dead.


Sounds like the doctors fricked up. But here you are spreading misinformation.

2021(RvW was still in effect)
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Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”


When you have to stretch the truth for your political argument that is pretty damn sad. And evil
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4953 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:55 am to
That’s right you will because this board is a bastion of something you can’t possibly understand—free speech. Because of that, you’re gonna hear from loonies on all sides: people that think the holocaust didn’t happen, flat earthers, birds aren’t real, and the democrats are the part of democracy—all cockamamy bullshite. They all have a right to think and express it, but you have no obligation to indulge or encourage them, something else a liberal doesn’t understand.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24129 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:55 am to
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you’ll get some pretty amazing conspiracy theories, flat earthers, dinosaur/human co-inhabitors

Conspiracy theories like the DNC, Clinton and Obama colluding with a foreign nation to prevent Trump from taking the presidency?

The true vaccine conspiracies?
The Joe Biden selling his influence to Ukraine and China conspiracy?
How about the US destroying the Nordstream pipeline conspiracy?
Maybe we should discuss the fricking WUHAN CORONAVIRUS LAB conspiracy?
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9135 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:55 am to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:56 am to
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Which is laughable because Trump has been very clear it's a state issue and he will not support anything nationally regarding abortion.


People who are voting solely for the abortion issue don't believe it should be a states' rights issue though.

They believe you are actively telling women what they can or cannot do medically. By not having that protected federally, you are deemed complicit in taking away rights from women.

I personally believe abortion should be a states' rights issue, but that's not how the single issue abortion voters think.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20382 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:58 am to
Every abortion performed for convenience to eliminate unwanted pregnancies should be accompanied by a tubal ligation, then the demand for them would drop to almost zero.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:59 am to
What grinds my arse is that they never ever ever say the word 'abortion' - while that is the very essence of their message.

And it is worse than that - the ONLY real truth about their abortion stance is that they want to make sure that a fully formed fetus in the birth canal ready to be delivered can be killed on the whim of the 'mother' for any reason at all - THAT is what they are defending.

There are very VERY few instances other than that where significant issues exist.
= other than the absolute religious view that NO abortion should be ordained by god. there are almost NO adherants to this position and not ONE person who is running for ANY office is promoting it - that does not exist as a viable POLITICAL issue.

ABORTION is an ugly word - but it it EXACTLY what the DEMs worship in their hearts but are too ashamed to come out and say it publicly .

And the people they are preaching it to are primarily being harmed by it - the black population has been decimated by abortion - if they really were concerned about black improvement they would emphasize FAMILY VALUES instead of promiscuous parasitic existence. I suspect close to HALF the black population has been thrown into the medical trash because of abortion for the past 50 years.

They know that - so that is why they are so adamant about importing a WHOLE NEW DEPENDANT POPULATION of illegal aliens, who can be counted on to do their bidding soon after being imported to the "land of free stuff" and swamp the elections with another mass of UNEARNED voting power.

There is not ONE honest, moral, logical, lawful aspect of the democrat party plan for the future of America - their ONLY guiding principle is advancement of their OWN personal power structure.

They are EVIL - someone give a POSITIVE aspect of ANY democrat proposal - or nominate ONE democrat seeking election who has demonstrated an OUNCE of 'public service' divorced from their own PERSONAL enrichment.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5109 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:00 am to
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A lot of the anti-Trump movement is a pro-democracy movement.


I’ll bite.

Since you are supporting candidates who are pro-democracy, how do you feel about the DNC, which Kamala Harris now leads, suing to take Trump, Jill Stein, RFK, Jr., and Cornel West off of the ballot in multiple states?

Doesn’t sound very pro-democracy to me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:01 am to
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How a political party chooses a nominee is not a direct reflection of the country’s democracy. Correct.


The word "democracy" only became important to you bitches when yall found out how easily manipulated people are by the term.

Youre going to have this retarded democracy regardless of who wins, Dude. Stop believing stupid, vapid women.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24129 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:01 am to
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want to make sure that a fully formed fetus in the birth canal ready to be delivered can be killed on the whim of the 'mother' for any reason at all - THAT is what they are defending.

Correct. That is what governor ralph northam was preaching and the dems realized they can’t be that forthcoming about it

If you read the proposed law, it allowed exceptions for the health of the mother in connection with her doctor. That could include mental health

Badabing badaboom, I changed my mind doc at the last second doc, I want to have the college experience. Go ahead and make it comfortable and kill it
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9135 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:02 am to
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People who are voting solely for the abortion issue don't believe it should be a states' rights issue though.

They believe you are actively telling women what they can or cannot do medically. By not having that protected federally, you are deemed complicit in taking away rights from women.

I personally believe abortion should be a states' rights issue, but that's not how the single issue abortion voters think.


The media is gaslighting a lot of people into believing Trump will outright ban abortion at the federal level. That’s behind a lot of the passion over the issue by pro-choicers.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17279 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:07 am to
I have a “moderate” neighbor who I have posted about before. Most moderates are just scared to have or defend a position.

Moderate Neighbor has a friend who I generally like, but who is OBSESSED with abortions. She told me Trump made her leave the Republican Party bc Trump banned abortions. I just had to give her the side eye bc I’m not sure how you rationalized being a republican since you were registered to vote and suddenly realized that republicans don’t like abortions; or she cannot comprehend that Trump didn’t ban abortions, the State of Louisiana did.

There’s no reasoning with her. She had to start taking Xanax bc she’s literally terrified that Trump is going to win and believes it’s the end of muh democracy. All bc of abortion. It makes utterly zero sense to me.
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
6104 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:21 am to
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10622 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:26 am to
That is just sick
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115360 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:32 am to
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think


Lol
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20585 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:33 am to
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Trump will ban abortion

And have all his political opponents executed. Don't forget that.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6161 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:36 am to
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Is this illegal?


It’s not democratic
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Who says this (on either side of the aisle)?


Killary and tampon Tim both said it within the last week. Basically only speech they like should be protected.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:40 am to
I'm sorry you associate with so many baby murderers.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:42 am to
Lol no accountability. And Obummer and Burden did everything by the book right?
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 11:43 am to
It's only illegal of Americans do it. Demoncraps can do whatever they want.
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