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re: Epstein Files: Massie reveals names

Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:13 pm to
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So effective they tried!

No, they did. Maxwell's conviction is the biggest skin on the wall of all of this.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:14 pm to
And that's all they got the assistant.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:15 pm to
Would you prefer they engaged in true productivity and try Epstein in absentia, postmortem?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10626 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:16 pm to
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It also highlights the fact the justice system hasn't done shite about these people. It shows that many of the redactions weren't justified to begin with, and generally just draws attention to it. It shouldn't be up to a congressman to do these things to begin with, it shows how fricked up things are at the highest levels.


The DOJ "mistakes" in redaction were shocking. There were photos of nude teenagers and a toddler. Yet, Massie is the bad guy?

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
4959 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:16 pm to
That’s what happens when the girls recruited each other, I mean victims…
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:16 pm to
Lol they released nothing.

Got the assistant oh so effective
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
876 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:19 pm to
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evidence and missing children related.


There are about 100-115 cases every year where a child is reported missing in a stranger abduction scenario and then the case is never solved or known what happened to them.

That is in the US alone.

I don't know what happened on that island, but this defense is weak as shite.

Also, the evidence is in some of what the emails say apparently. I don't want to read that shite, but apparently some of them have very disturbing details. I think other acts are more likely and then what they do with the children after is unknown as far as that goes.

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:21 pm to
Guess who has done the most for missing and exploited children…
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
50033 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:21 pm to
I. Alleged Completed Killings / Deaths
Person / Event

Source

Allegation / Evidence

Assessment

Two foreign girls — Zorro Ranch, New Mexico

Anonymous 2019 communication from a person claiming to be a former Zorro Ranch staff member; reportedly forwarded to the FBI and later appearing in released Epstein material.

The writer alleged that two foreign girls died from strangulation during rough/fetish sexual activity and that their bodies were buried in hills near the ranch, allegedly on instructions attributed to Epstein and “Madam G.”

UNVERIFIED ALLEGATION. New Mexico authorities have reportedly investigated/search-related allegations. No public finding of remains establishing these alleged deaths has been identified in this preliminary compilation.

Newborn child — Lake Michigan allegation

FBI National Threat Operations Center tip submitted in 2020 and subsequently released among Epstein-related records.

A complainant alleged that, while she was a minor trafficking victim, her newborn child was killed and the body disposed of in Lake Michigan.

AUTHENTIC FBI TIP; UNDERLYING CLAIM UNVERIFIED. The existence of the tip does not establish that the alleged homicide occurred.

Jeffrey Epstein — alleged homicide in federal custody

Mark Epstein submission/tip to the FBI, together with other individuals who have alleged that Epstein was murdered.

Mark Epstein expressly alleged that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and suggested that the motive involved information Epstein possessed concerning powerful people.

ALLEGATION CONTRADICTS OFFICIAL FINDINGS. The official determination remains suicide. DOJ OIG documented serious custodial failures but reported no evidence establishing homicide.

Jeffrey Epstein — alleged guard statements

Account attributed to an MCC inmate concerning statements allegedly heard after Epstein was discovered.

The inmate reportedly described hearing statements by correctional personnel that he interpreted as suggesting someone had killed Epstein and/or that staff were concerned about responsibility or a cover-up.

FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF ALLEGED STATEMENTS; NOT PROOF OF HOMICIDE. Requires comparison with the underlying FBI interview and surrounding context.

Jean-Luc Brunel

Publicly documented death in French custody; Brunel was closely associated with Epstein and was facing sexual-offense allegations.

Brunel was found hanging in his prison cell in February 2022.

DEATH CONFIRMED; OFFICIAL FINDING SUICIDE. No competent evidence presently identified in this compilation establishes homicide.

Virginia Giuffre

Public reporting and statements concerning her death and the threats she previously reported.

Giuffre died in 2025. Her prior accounts and family statements describe threats associated with her Epstein-related advocacy and allegations.

DEATH CONFIRMED; REPORTED AS SUICIDE. Prior threats warrant separate documentation but do not establish homicide.

II. Death Threats and Fear of Being Killed
Sarah Ransome: Ransome has publicly alleged that Epstein threatened to kill her and to hunt down and kill members of her family if she disclosed what had happened.
Maria Farmer: Farmer has described threats and intimidation connected with Epstein and Maxwell, including allegations of explicit threats to her safety.
Virginia Giuffre: Giuffre and those close to her described death threats and fear arising from her public allegations and cooperation concerning Epstein and Maxwell.
Other Epstein survivors: Multiple survivors have publicly reported death threats, threats of physical harm, harassment, and intimidation after speaking about Epstein and associated individuals.
III. Source Classification
For continued review, each item should be classified as: sworn testimony; firsthand witness statement; FBI/DOJ interview; FBI tip or intake report; contemporaneous correspondence; hearsay; official death/investigative finding; corroborated allegation; or uncorroborated allegation.

IV. Principal Source Leads for Further Verification
• U.S. Department of Justice — Epstein Library and released EFTA records.
• Federal Bureau of Investigation records concerning Jeffrey Epstein.
• DOJ Office of Inspector General report concerning the custody, care, and supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at MCC New York.
• New Mexico governmental records concerning allegations associated with Zorro Ranch.
• Public testimony and statements of Maria Farmer, Sarah Ransome, Virginia Giuffre, Annie Farmer, and other Epstein survivors.
• Underlying FBI interview/tip documents should be obtained and cited by EFTA/document number wherever possible before treating any allegation as evidentiary support.
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Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37569 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

quote:
They murdered little kids. I will pray for you.


What exactly are you basing this claim off of?

These people be like “What does “basing this claim off of mean?”


Of course the correct answer to that is “Nothing.” Because it doesn’t exist because it isn’t true. Not that that matters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481572 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

They murdered little kids.


You have no credible evidence to support this.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13589 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:24 pm to
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Does that make you feel better or something?

He is not my representative so I don't really care. Tired of hearing about him to be honest. This naming names bullshite is him getting some attention as he gets pushed out the door.

I'm not sure why anyone really talks about him anymore.


ETA: Well shite...seems he's running for something in 2028...guess we'll have to listen to him for a bit longer.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15419 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:25 pm to
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David Copperfield


Always wondered what happened to that dude. He just kinda disappeared.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10626 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:25 pm to
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Lol they released nothing.

Got the assistant oh so effective


Why is this relevant? Biden supporters hadn't pushed for release of the Epstein files. We Trump supporters pushed for release because we (naively) thought it might reveal insights about the Deep State.

Then Massie got a bill passed with all but one Republican in Congress supporting it. Trump signed the law. Almost a year later, Trump's DOJ hasn't complied with the law.

Bongino, Bondi, and Patel ALL lied about the jail video establishing that Epstein killed himself.

Here's a good reminder of the hypocrisy:





Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:30 pm to
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Biden supporters hadn't pushed for release of the Epstein files. We Trump supporters pushed for release because we (naively) thought it might reveal insights about the Deep State.


This retcon has been FASCINATING to watch unfold.

All those pro-Trump Q-tards who pushed Epstein for YEARS who just pulled a 180 one day and pretend they never did....just magical stuff
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 5:44 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37569 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:31 pm to
All those couple dozen people (if that) from an anonymous internet message board, eh??
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 10:33 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
50033 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:36 pm to
My position on this has been the same through the Franklin Scandal, and easily searchable on OT. It’s personal to me because they tried to get him in 70s abs got a few of my friends. Here are just a few of people you are defending:

1. North Fox Island / Brother Paul’s Children’s Mission — Michigan (1970s)
Documented organized sexual exploitation of boys associated with a purported children’s charity; possible broader connections have been alleged and require separate proof.
2. Oakland County Child Killings / alleged exploitation-network connections — Michigan (1976–1977)
Four child murders remain a major historical case. Claimed links to North Fox Island or organized child-exploitation networks should be treated as disputed/unproven unless supported by specific evidence.
3. The Keepers / Archbishop Keough High School — Maryland (1960s–1970s; exposed later)
Sexual-abuse allegations involving Father Joseph Maskell and others; Sister Catherine Cesnik’s murder remains unsolved. Alleged connection between her death and knowledge of abuse remains unresolved.
4. Boys for Sale — Texas (1970s–1980s)
Houston/Texas investigation of juvenile male prostitution and exploitation associated with KTRK reporting, the documentary material, and University of Texas professor Tom Philpott’s research. Contemporary reporting described police pursuit of leaders of male-prostitution rings. Claims of prominent customers, deaths, and broader networks require source-by-source verification.
5. The Finders — Florida / Washington, D.C. / Virginia (Group active earlier; major investigation 1987)
Six children were found in Tallahassee with two Finders members, prompting multi-agency investigation. Searches produced unusual photographs and materials and allegations of child abuse/pornography. The Florida charges were ultimately dismissed for insufficient evidence, and broader criminal allegations were not established.
6. McMartin Preschool — California (1980s)
Highly publicized allegations of organized and ritual child sexual abuse. No convictions resulted; many of the sweeping allegations were later discredited or regarded as unsubstantiated.
7. Franklin Credit Union / Franklin allegations — Nebraska and alleged interstate activity (Late 1980s–early 1990s)
Witnesses alleged an interstate child prostitution/sexual exploitation network involving influential individuals. Grand juries rejected the broad ring allegations. The allegations remain historically significant but disputed.
8. Presidio Child Development Center allegations — California (1980s)
Child-abuse allegations at the U.S. Army Presidio expanded into claims of a larger organized or ritual network. The broad network claims were not established.
9. Country Walk / day-care abuse cases — Florida (1980s)
Child sexual-abuse prosecutions and broader allegations arising from day-care settings. Must be separated between conduct established in court and wider claims that were disputed.
10. Fells Acres / Amirault case — Massachusetts (1980s)
Day-care sexual-abuse prosecutions amid the broader 1980s child-abuse panic. Convictions occurred, while aspects of interviewing methods and broader allegations remain heavily disputed.
11. Kern County child-abuse prosecutions — California (1980s)
Multiple prosecutions alleging organized child sexual abuse. A number of convictions were later overturned, making this important for distinguishing proven abuse from unreliable or contaminated allegations.
12. Boys Clubs / Boys & Girls Clubs cases — Nationwide (1970s–present)
Numerous allegations and documented cases involving employees or volunteers at local clubs. Better treated as repeated institutional abuse across affiliates unless evidence establishes a centrally coordinated nationwide ring.
13. Catholic clergy sexual-abuse and concealment cases — Nationwide (Decades)
Extensive documented child sexual abuse across dioceses, including institutional failures, concealment, and transfers of accused clergy. Individual dioceses and networks should be separately analyzed.
14. Boy Scouts of America sexual-abuse cases — Nationwide (Decades)
Tens of thousands of abuse claims emerged in bankruptcy proceedings. Represents mass institutional abuse and alleged failures to protect children; not necessarily one centrally coordinated sex ring.
15. Penn State / Jerry Sandusky / The Second Mile — Pennsylvania (1990s–2010s)
Sandusky was convicted of numerous child sexual-abuse offenses. His access to boys through The Second Mile and institutional handling at Penn State are central to the case.
16. USA Gymnastics / Larry Nassar — Michigan / Nationwide (1990s–2010s)
Criminally established serial sexual abuse of young athletes with major institutional and investigative failures.
17. FLDS / Warren Jeffs and related exploitation — Western U.S. (1990s–present prosecutions)
Organized religious hierarchy involving underage marriages and sexual exploitation. Multiple criminal cases establish significant portions of the conduct.
18. House of Prayer / Anna Elizabeth Young — Florida (1970s–1990s; prosecuted later)
Abusive religious compound/cult allegations involving children, severe physical abuse, and a child death. Sexual-abuse components should be separately verified before characterizing the entire group as a sex ring.
19. Jeffrey Epstein / Ghislaine Maxwell network (1990s–2019 and subsequent proceedings)
Criminally established recruitment and sexual exploitation of minors involving Epstein and Maxwell, alongside many additional allegations of varying evidentiary strength.
20. Mineola child-sex-ring case — Texas (2000s)
High-profile allegations of organized sexual abuse of children. Convictions and later reversals make the evidentiary history complicated and appropriate for separate analysis.
21. William D. Foster sex-trafficking organization — South Florida (Long-running; federal prosecution)
Federal prosecutors established a long-running sex-trafficking organization involving vulnerable women and girls. Foster received a lengthy federal sentence.
22. 764 / related online child-exploitation networks (2020s)
Decentralized online networks accused and prosecuted in cases involving coercion, sexual exploitation, extortion, and production/distribution of child sexual-abuse material.
23. Greggy’s Cult — online / United States (2020s)
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10626 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:40 pm to
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All those pro-Trump Q-tards who pushed Epstein for YEARS


I will definitely own up to that. Of course, it was probably stupid to think that "the Deep State" would leave a signed note that said "We did it. -Yours Truly, The Deep State."

Still, the gaps in the files are helpful....
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10626 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:43 pm to
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My position on this has been the same through the Franklin Scandal, and easily searchable on OT.


Thank you Tut for that. I STILL can't believe that the Franklin Scandal didn't bring the entire nation to a grinding halt.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99964 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 11:03 pm to
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Always wondered what happened to that dude. He just kinda disappeared.


He just ended a 25yr run grossing about 60mil a year in Vegas

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