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re: EO to ban burning of the U.S. Flag is Brilliant.

Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17281 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:13 am to
W/o that 2nd amendment the 1st amendment would not hold. But god given right to burn is not the same as you right to express. You may have a legal argument to burn a flag if all other laws are followed but try and burn a restaurant and claim it is your right won’t happen. You Do Not Have A God Given Right To Burn Something. God gave you morals and a conscious but you are suppose to operate them
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170714 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:13 am to
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Correct. Prisoners of the moment, more directly "whatever Trump says on a particular day."

Correct. Years ago people were warning of a militarized police state. Now they celebrate it.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14342 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:15 am to
Agree with the OP. Brilliant! The optics are going to be devasting for the Dems. The blue-haired freaks and illegal alien sympathizers will be out in force, making the normal person choose who they want to be associated with. I assume the EO will get struck down, but the political ramifications of those images will pay huge dividends at the mid-terms.
Posted by SludgeFactory
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Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:16 am to
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So you don't have one example of this being a problem


LOL you really going to play this game?

Of course you are, because you are a trained liar. I feel stupid because now I've stooped to your level.

You're right, a teenager in FL wasn't arrested for peeling out on a rainbow flag painted on a road, a woman in NY wasn't arrested for burning a gay flag, another teenager wasn't arrested for "stealing" a gay flag and burning it.

That's just three off the top of my head without even using bing to find more.

I'm done with you. You are going to lie and gas light even on a topic that I agree with you. This is why I will never vote with people like you again. You want separate laws.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46235 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:18 am to
I wont disagree with that in principle, but you know as well as I do that the framing will blow up in the left's face
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2457 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:18 am to
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So if it is 4D chess you're saying that Trump wants there to be civil unrest and riots? I don't think that's the win that you think it is.


If you riot because you can't burn the American flag, then you're part of a sub-species of mentally challenged sheeple that need to get a fricking life.

GTFO of here with all this limp risted fear porn.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2457 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:18 am to
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So if it is 4D chess you're saying that Trump wants there to be civil unrest and riots? I don't think that's the win that you think it is.


If you riot because you can't burn the American flag, then you're part of a sub-species of mentally challenged sheeple that need to get a fricking life.

GTFO of here with all this limp risted fear porn.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:18 am to
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a teenager in FL wasn't arrested for peeling out on a rainbow flag painted on a road

Not applicable as a comparison, but he also doesn't own the road

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a woman in NY wasn't arrested for burning a gay flag

Not her flag

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another teenager wasn't arrested for "stealing" a gay flag and burning it.

You admit it's not their flag

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That's just three off the top of my head

And none are applicable examples. You're proving his point

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:19 am to
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but you know as well as I do that the framing will blow up in the left's face


I don't think there is going to be a rash of flag burning.

Yes, a few isolated example will be spread around the echo chamber and amplified, but people burn flags regularly so it will be more reporting on the status quo.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:21 am to
Internet valedictorian at it strong this am I see. fricking moron.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:23 am to
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If you riot because you can't burn the American flag,


Its quite amazing how many of you cannot see the bigger picture. If this is y'alls approach to constitutional issues, say bye to your firearms.

This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 8:25 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:26 am to
Well yeah you can't damage the road or someone else's property. That's still illegal. But if you want to go get a pride flag and burn it responsibly following applicable fire laws and put it on YouTube for others to see....nothing will happen to you...which is as it should be.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2457 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to
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Its quite amazing how many of you cannot see the bigger picture. If this is y'alls approach to constitutional issues, say bye to your firearms.


Hyperbole much?

Also, I need lottery numbers since you fricks can always seemingly see the future. Thanks in advance.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170714 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to
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Well yeah you can't damage the road or someone else's property. That's still illegal. But if you want to go get a pride flag and burn it responsibly following applicable fire laws and put it on YouTube for others to see....nothing will happen to you...which is as it should be.

Yeah. There is nothing saying you can't burn a pride flag so long as it's your pride flag and burning it doesn't break any other laws.

The idea that the pride flag is protected any more than the American flag is just MAGA fiction that they made up in their heads.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to
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Hyperbole much?


Its not. Once you justify stomping on your constitutional rights, all will be stomped.

Yet here y'all are...
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2427 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:53 am to
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And none are applicable examples.


Then I stand corrected.

Like I said, I'm all for being able to do it all as long as everyone is treated the same.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29695 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:04 am to
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This isn't 4D chess. It's just Trump not understanding the bill of rights and court precedence.



This will be proven true if anyone is jailed for a year.

I actually tend to agree with this take. I personally believe Trump doesn't really care about 1a here, i think he's just offended that anyone would burn our flag.

Nothing could be more unAmerican than burning a flag. Yet, it's the most American thing one CAN do. Symbolically.

NO one is supportive of this EO that I've met, yet.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170714 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:07 am to
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Nothing could be more unAmerican than burning a flag. Yet, it's the most American thing one CAN do. Symbolically.


That's one of the ironies of freedom of speech

And the whole purpose of freedom of speech is to protect speech that most people won't like
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:08 am to
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Its quite amazing how many of you cannot see the bigger picture. If this is y'alls approach to constitutional issues, say bye to your firearms.


and freedom of religion.

Make no mistake Christianity is at the top of the gment hit list
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297390 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:10 am to
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and freedom of religion.


Its almost like these rubes think these EOs are permanent.

The next guy will just undo them, and start picking on us.

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