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End fracking in 5 years.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:55 am
Everyone besides Bloomberg and Klobuchar seemed to agree with this.
This would mean economic ruin for at least 50% of the battleground states of PA and Ohio. You lose both of those states I don't think you can win the election. I don't know the facts but since Ohio became a state I don't think any president has won without carrying at least 1 of those states.
This would also mean substantial price increases in oil and gas on a global scale.
Insanity that they would consider completely ending it.
As someone from the area who works at a company that barely deals with the fracking companies it's terrifying if any one of them won the presidency. I couldn't imagine if my livelihood was completely reliant on it.
This would mean economic ruin for at least 50% of the battleground states of PA and Ohio. You lose both of those states I don't think you can win the election. I don't know the facts but since Ohio became a state I don't think any president has won without carrying at least 1 of those states.
This would also mean substantial price increases in oil and gas on a global scale.
Insanity that they would consider completely ending it.
As someone from the area who works at a company that barely deals with the fracking companies it's terrifying if any one of them won the presidency. I couldn't imagine if my livelihood was completely reliant on it.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:57 am to LB84
Not just Ohio and Pennsylvania.
The Dems have been salivating over flipping Texas blue by pandering to Hispanics. Fracking becomes an issue and I guarantee Texas gets redder.
The Dems have been salivating over flipping Texas blue by pandering to Hispanics. Fracking becomes an issue and I guarantee Texas gets redder.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:05 am to LB84
'You have to break some eggs to make an omelette.'
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:05 am to LB84
Not sure any of them have a chance of winning Ohio anyways
State flipped the most total votes red in the country from 2012 election to 2016 election and is almost as red as possible for its population size
State flipped the most total votes red in the country from 2012 election to 2016 election and is almost as red as possible for its population size
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:28 am to LB84
I didn't watch. Did Bloomy or Klob even challenge the communists on this?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:33 am to LB84
That is just flat out ignorant
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:35 am to LB84
It’s not fracking itself that would be the job killer; it would be the very high cost of energy. Energy prices in the USA would increase 4 fold unless we reopened coal plants. It would kill manufacturing. Big boon for Russia and the Middle East as they would once again control the oil markets.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:51 am to LB84
I own a 1.6 acre plot in a dirt poor small town in the Eagle Ford Shale region of Texas. I don’t live there and haven’t seen it in about 5 years. The town is probably 75% Hispanic with a high poverty rate. When fracking caught up with my area about 5 years ago, I received about a $13,000 signing bonus for a royalty agreement. Over the next year I received about $6000 in royalties. Since then it has dropped to about $200 a month. Everyone in that town has been receiving money for oil royalties. At the peak I couldn’t find anyone I could pay to mow the vacant lot. Everyone was working in the oil fields or driving trucks for the companies serving the oil fields. Do you think the poor Hispanic population there that receives a royalty payment every month, even if it is small by our standards, wants fracking to end? The democrats don’t realize how many people this will affect. It isn’t just people in the oil business, it’s individuals in poor communities. Their businesses depend on the fracking and they directly receive monthly payments.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:04 pm to LB84
Bernie got a plan...green new deal!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:14 pm to LB84
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Insanity that they would consider completely ending it.
The President doesn't have that power. Sure they could impose administrative level regulations to harm the industry but a lot of what these dem nominees are spouting is bullshite that won't ever happen and they know it.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:17 pm to wareaglepete
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I didn't watch. Did Bloomy or Klob even challenge the communists on this?
They both said the same thing that it is a transient energy. We need to use it until green tech is developed to be cost and energy efficient. Which I would say is the correct answer. I think we all wished we could power everything will clean and renewable energy with high efficiency and low cost but the technology is not there.
Elizabeth Warren gave some spiel about how we aren't going to have a habitable planet and that she believes in science and that we will come up with something that will fix climate change and create over a million manufacturing jobs. So we have no idea what this technology is just that we will come up with it.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:22 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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It isn’t just people in the oil business, it’s individuals in poor communities.
Western PA (outside of Pittsburgh), most of central PA, Northern West Virginia, and Eastern Ohio (insert Joe Burrow Heisman speech) it is pretty much all they have going on right now. Without fracking there would ghost towns in those areas. Coal is a horse with 3 broken legs at this point. Those areas are dying for jobs, fracking and the business that the oil and gas folks spend their money on is all that's surviving.
I moved to PA last year working in Pittsburgh. First time I get to cast my vote in a battleground state. WV has always been spoken for because we knew Democratic presidents have equaled death for the last ~20 years.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:23 pm to LB84
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Elizabeth Warren
She along with others on the stage at different times essentially just said some version of "I have a trillion dollar plan to fix [fill in the blank]" without providing a shred of detail. Just give them your money and they will take care of everything, mmkay?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:25 pm to LB84
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End fracking in 5 years.
People that say this don't know what the frick they are talking about.
For every fracking well you need an average of 40 conventional wells. The scares at the surface without fracking wells would be 40 times worse.
The people that understand fracking and demonize fracking and get the ignorant worked up don't like the low energy prices. The reason is they are into alternative energy forms of business other than O&G. Low O&G prices make alternative energy economically nonviable. It's people like Tom Steyer that are against fracking not for environmental reasons, but he demonizes it that way, but he is against fracking because the technology negatively impacts his investments in alternative energy businesses.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:30 pm to LB84
Does this kind of shite poll well with anyone? What danger does fracking have for anything? Why does the government get to dictate how technology is used in private mineral rights?
I’m looking at an artificial lift design right now. Perfs and frack zone are 10k true vertical feet deep in a 10k ft length horizontal well. It would take almost 5k psi for any fluid to reach the surface. Let’s not forget about the packers in use during frac jobs and the steel and concrete casing used to protect the entire fricking wellbore.
Please idiotic know-nothing socialists, tell me how to drill, case, and produce an oil well.
I’m looking at an artificial lift design right now. Perfs and frack zone are 10k true vertical feet deep in a 10k ft length horizontal well. It would take almost 5k psi for any fluid to reach the surface. Let’s not forget about the packers in use during frac jobs and the steel and concrete casing used to protect the entire fricking wellbore.
Please idiotic know-nothing socialists, tell me how to drill, case, and produce an oil well.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:33 pm to The Goon
Again, it's the alternative energy investors that have duped the ignorant and emotional environmentalists into thinking fracking is bad.
The alternative energy investors do not like the low O&G prices. They can't compete.
The alternative energy investors do not like the low O&G prices. They can't compete.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:34 pm to LB84
Next the dems will want to end fricking in five years. That is the best way to save the planet.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:34 pm to LB84
you can pry my haynesville shale lease from my cold dead fingers
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:38 pm to GumboPot
It’s funny thinking back to who funded the original anti-fracking propaganda, Saudi Arabia.
Look at Aramco job openings. Half of the production jobs are requesting unconventional oil production experience. Saudi has found shale plays and they’re going after it, including fracking to open up the reservoir.
Look at Aramco job openings. Half of the production jobs are requesting unconventional oil production experience. Saudi has found shale plays and they’re going after it, including fracking to open up the reservoir.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:53 pm to The Goon
"I can teach anyone how to be a fracker: 1 dig a hole 2 up comes oil 3 put oil in bucket 4 sell oil"
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