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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

Posted on 11/20/24 at 4:16 am to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 4:16 am to
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It's funny you think the government has abandoned or sold all those building that employees used to occupy.

Taxes are paying for those buildings and the people to stay home.

Then sell them and downsize.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 4:56 am to
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I love Elon.

He’s wrong here. Not everyone can afford childcare for the 7 or w/e kids he has.



Can't afford child care but can afford to take that 10k dollar Disneyland trip
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:04 pm to
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So you admit this is true but fail to comprehend why WFH needs to be eliminated. At the office you have a boss that can enforce consequences for such behavior. If you don't want to work at the office under a boss, start your own business

Old boy's clearly never worked in an office before, he thinks if you work in the same office as your boss, that means there's literally no way you could ever waste company time and do some shopping online..


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:05 pm to
I'm about to take my dog to the vet. What a prescient bump.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:25 pm to
As someone that works from home doing operations control I disagree.

I have to travel for 2 weeks every quarter and sometimes it’s international to Turkey. Yet I can still work on domestic priorities as I sit In the airport In Germany waiting on my connecting flight.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Then sell them and downsize.
To whom? Have not noticed the vacant commercial properties?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:30 pm to
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I'm about to take my dog to the vet
So you will be posting from the waiting room?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467757 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:47 pm to
Just did
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112647 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:54 pm to
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More than what/who and in less time than what/who?

More and less than other employees, or more and less than the same employee working from a workspace vs working from home?

Good workers will get shite done whether at home or work.


All of the whiners reek of people who wish they could WFH but don't have a skillset to do so, or middle managers who don't have the requisite skillset to recognize a good worker when they have one, so they want to micromanage all their employees in the office.


People and companies have been successfully with WFH loooong before Covid.
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Employees who work from home spend way more time doing things other than working than employees who work in an office. That's simple common sense. There are far fewer distractions in an office and far more supervision and accountability. That's a simple fact.

You're wrong, your "facts" are anything but.

Things don't get to be facts because you want them to be, that's not how any of this works.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112647 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:56 pm to
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I'm about to take my dog to the vet. What a prescient bump.

OUTRAGE!!!!




People in the office never ever ever ever ever do anything other than keep their head down and work the entire time they are at work....ever!!!





What people don't realize is, WFH you can probably knock that out in 1-1.5, maybe on a lunch break. If I work in the office and have to take my dog to the vet, at minimum that's a half day for me, but also possibly just taking the entire day. If I can do it and be home in just over an hour because I WFH, then I quit literally miss zero extra time of work once you factor lunch and commute.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:02 pm to
State of Tennessee has been selling such buildings, but that government adopted WFH years ago even before covid.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:03 pm to
We talk about homeless issue with all of these empty buildings...smh
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:08 pm to
Plus it keeps downward pressure on inflation, and it's good for the environment.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5040 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:12 pm to
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I completely disagree. There are certain jobs that 100% do not require a physical office for everyone.


Completely agree... I'm a project manager. I have no need to sit in an office onsite to do this job. I'd try to find another job if I were forced to go back in the office.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30642 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:20 pm to
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 wonder how much Musk works in the office on a weekly basis?


I'll bet you $100 he's not hanging out at home though.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:23 pm to
With automation, I think the future will be most folks being self employed. Lysander Spooner would be proud.
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