Started By
Message

re: Elon Musk says don't go to medical school as surgeons will be obsolete in 48 months.

Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80023 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:21 am to
You think patients are going to let an AI robot do a CABG when a surgeon can do it safely and have you out of the hospital in 7 days?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6390 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Something is either free or it isn't.


Nothing is free...not 1 thing can happen without previous "cost"
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80023 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:27 am to
quote:


I don’t think you grasp what goes on in an OR suite or the complexities of human anatomy.

Where can I bet my life savings that Elon Musk’s timeline will be incorrect? Kalshi?
Elon doesn't know what Elon doesn't know.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22031 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:27 am to
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:31 am to
quote:

You think patients are going to let an AI robot do a CABG when a surgeon can do it safely and have you out of the hospital in 7 days?


In a decade or so. Absolutely.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80023 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:35 am to
quote:

In a decade or so. Absolutely
Doubt it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Just fricking great, my daughter is in her last year of med school!
Congrats!

AI will play an increasingly significant role aiding "cognitive specialties" ... internal medicine, family practice, and peds.

In terms of the "replacement" discussion, general radiology and clinical pathology might be threatened over the next decade, and perhaps diagnostic derm.

Other than that, she should do great!
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
508 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:43 am to
I’ve worked in automation and robotics for over 40 years. I’ve personally witnessed robotic tig welders that could perform welds in minutes that would take a human all day. They do it with better quality as well. These robots were cutting edge 15 years ago. Now they are obsolete.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:48 am to
quote:

In a decade or so. Absolutely.
Nah.
Robotics and AI will continue playing an accessory role, as they are already.

Again, the model already out there is the airline industry, where cockpits remain fully manned despite automation capacity.

Until AGI is fully functional, and widely available, there are simply too many real life variables to cede human control. E.g., a Tesla driving under full automation on a country road passes a person at roadside wildly, waving his arms and screaming "The bridge is out!" It's a variable which would attain an immediate human response, but which AI is not equipped to process.

That's even applicable to variables in the current setting such as signs saying "no right turn on red."

Are these things correctable? Of course. But under ANI, they each have to be programmed in ahead of time. There are thousands of such variables in the operating room, and more generally in clinical medicine.
This post was edited on 1/11/26 at 9:55 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:54 am to
quote:

I’ve personally witnessed robotic tig welders that could perform welds in minutes that would take a human all day. They do it with better quality as well.
Absolutely.

Another such example is in commercial/military painting applications. Especially in terms of complex tasks, such as randomized camouflage painting of military equipment. Robotics has proven extremely successful in those areas for 30 years. But that's a little different than what we're talking about in this thread.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
508 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:02 am to
Not when you take into account the progress of computing in general and much more important is the advancement of vision systems
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
508 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:04 am to
Dexterity has also advanced

Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
508 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:04 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Not when you take into account the progress of computing in general and much more important is the advancement of vision systems
I am taking those into account, and doing so from a personal experience perspective. My father finished his engineering career in applied robotics design. My career is in clinical medicine. We currently use robotic assistance in the operating room, and AI in diagnostics. So these are not shoot from the hip precepts.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:17 am to
Well, you have to buy one. Are you just waiting for random distribution?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Dexterity has also advanced
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
508 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:21 am to
All I’m saying is brushing off the possibility of Robots performing autonomous surgery isn’t some sci-fi fantasy as many believe. Especially when you take into account the advances made pre AI. If someone had suggested that in 1995 by the year 2010 it would be possible to essentially carry the sum of all human knowledge in your pocket most would have laughed.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:32 am to
quote:

All I’m saying is brushing off the possibility of Robots performing autonomous surgery isn’t some sci-fi fantasy as many believe.
The question is as to timeframe. Elon Musk says don't go to medical school as surgeons will be obsolete in 48 months. That is a patently ridiculous statement. Elon knows it. It is a marketing attention-getter to attract focus to Tesla robots, which by all accounts are amazing.

I'd propose you're more likely to see a Stepford wife application of the technology before a fully autonomous robotic Dr. Joe Gannon running around the OR.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35676 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:35 am to
Yeah, no they won't.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1898 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:35 am to
AI on radiography is already superior. I don't think the tech will be the timeline limiter, it will be squealing doctors (unionizing?) and politics.

Rodo
first pageprev pagePage 6 of 7Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram