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re: Elon and Vivek are right to point out the cultural factors in the visa issue

Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:48 pm to
SFP talks about Laura Loomer more than Laura Loomer
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:49 pm to
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You can even stereotype without being racist.


You said there were 200 million people in India who were too low IQ to learn how to read.

I know Dalit Christian Engineers, they can read just fine.

You sir are racist.

And a coward.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Already thoroughly addressed.


The answer is yes to all of them. They're all MAGA diehards

And that is not a controversial take.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:49 pm to
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your parents is "high"



Higher than average.

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You keep saying that yours is "high"


You literally made insinuations about my IQ and I answered you truthfully.

Then you accused me of being racist because IQ is genetic, and only loosely correlated with environment.

Why would I tell you my actual IQ?
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:50 pm to
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SFP talks about Laura Loomer more than Laura Loomer


She's a major player in.that specific discussion

Why wouldn't she be brought up?
Posted by Snazzmeister
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:51 pm to
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CS grads at the top of their class at Berkeley are not getting jobs per their Prof. Tech has laid off thousands over the past several years yet we need more H1bs...


The inconvenient truth that no one wants to openly discuss is that in this late-stage economy, we simply don’t need “builders” right now. Most of the tech companies are in wealth-extraction maintenance mode while a select few engineers try to monetize their AI investments.

Meanwhile, they need skeleton crews of engineers on call to “keep the lights on” and ensure the ops teams get their reports and Salesforce doesn’t break. If you can get them to work with bare-minimum benefits and pay while being on call two nights per week, all the better.

H1B Indians are much better suited to that task.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:51 pm to
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You sir are racist.


Meaningless term.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:52 pm to
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The inconvenient truth that no one wants to openly discuss is that in this late-stage economy, we simply don’t need “builders” right now. Most of the tech companies are in wealth-extraction maintenance mode while a select few engineers try to monetize their AI investments.

Meanwhile, they need skeleton crews of engineers on call to “keep the lights on” and ensure the ops teams get their reports and Salesforce doesn’t break. If you can get them to work with bare-minimum benefits and pay while being on call two nights per week, all the better.

H1B Indians are much better suited to that task.


80% correct. I summarized it unfairly so I'm glad you went into detail.

I edited because of your late stage references. It's just the recession part of the economics cycle. Not some terminal event.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:52 pm to
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You said there were 200 million people in India who were too low IQ to learn how to read.

I know Dalit Christian Engineers, they can read just fine.



Not with a sub 70 IQ you don't. You're simply lying.

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You sir are racist.


This again. Because you know a smart person who was born to poor people? I've got news for you his IQ was high from the moment he was born.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:53 pm to
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You literally made insinuations about my IQ and I answered you truthfully.

Then you accused me of being racist because IQ is genetic.

Why would I tell you my actual IQ?


You won't, because then you can't imply you are some higher level genius, just a common person who did well on a test and now brings it into every conversation like a report card.

Sad thing is it's even more cringe to bring up your Kid's IQ to justify YOUR racism.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:57 pm to
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Not with a sub 70 IQ


OK, so you are saying there are 200 million people in India who are sub 70 IQ, and those people will never be able to learn to read, so the caste system is justified?
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:58 pm to
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just a common person who did well on a test and now brings it into every conversation like a report card.


You brought it into the conversation.

It's genetic. You lose. Period.

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racism.




Laughable. You critical theorists are pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:00 pm to
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The answer is yes to all of them. They're all MAGA diehards

And that is not a controversial take.
Well, one of our antithetical takes is not controversial. It's just not yours.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 6:41 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
22974 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:00 pm to
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OK, so you are saying there are 200 million people in India who are sub 70 IQ, and those people will never be able to learn to read, so the caste system is justified?


No. It's never justified. It's gross. I said that's how they dealt with it. And yes, there are at least that many people with a sub-70 IQ.
Posted by Snazzmeister
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:00 pm to
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I edited because of your late stage references. It's just the recession part of the economics cycle. Not some terminal event.


“Late stage economy” was probably hyperbolic but I only mean it in the given context of the US tech sector.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3350 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:01 pm to
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You brought it into the conversation. It's a 152.


Bless your heart

Hope that feels satisfying.

Glad you used it to defend the Indian Caste system.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:02 pm to
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SFP talks about Laura Loomer more than Laura Loomer
Indeed.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25486 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:03 pm to
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Identically incapable


Even if I give you that the fact remains that the potential for development is NOT identical. LeBron couldn’t do my job no matter who raised him, nor could I do his.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Sad thing is it's even more cringe to bring up your Kid's IQ to justify YOUR racism.


Look take it easy on the guy. The online tests that popped up in the ads said his kid IQ was 130. You can’t question facts and accurate tests like those.

This also makes him better than everyone else and he knows everyone’s IQs so, gotta just accept it man.



This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3350 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:04 pm to
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No. It's never justified. It's gross. I said that's how they dealt with it. And yes, there are at least that many people with a sub-70 IQ.


And they are just as valuable as you in spite of their lack of nutrition and cultural education.

Indian Missionaries I know are able to teach all the Dalit who come to Christ to read the Bible.
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