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re: Electoral college changes
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:02 am to Jbird
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:02 am to Jbird
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Voters compact already in 18 states its coming
No way SCOTUS decision will affirm those states amendments override a need for constitutional amendment. At the time of those state amendments were voted it could be viewed as a "vanity" vote and not a legitimate vote to end the electoral college, because at the time of each vote, the actual impact of the amendment was not possible. People could have easily voted yes just to protest a current time, but when given a opportunity to vote on an actual change to government, those same voters may see it differently.
It goes nowhere without a constitutional amendment process. It's also a stupid idea!!
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:05 am to supatigah
I don’t know if you are dense, naive, or just run of the mill stupid but it’s one or all of those combined. The Constitution is nothing more than a document written three centuries ago. It has been ignored/misinterpreted in the past, in the present, and will be in the future by judges and politicians alike. Quit being autistic about telling me it’s in the Constitution and realize that the Constitution is only as good as the people interpreting and enforcing it. A liberal SC can and will read the Constitution in the way that they deem fits the situation. You act as though some mythical force will step in and put a force field over the Constitution and protect it from misinterpretation lol
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:07 am to Rip Torner
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You act as though some mythical force will step in
I think he's just up on current events to know that the current SCOTUS is conservative and that they generally do follow the Constitution.
I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption to factor in.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:09 am to wackatimesthree
We aren’t talking about the current court. We are talking about what happens to the court in the next 2-6 years. It will shift to the left dramatically is the premise
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:40 am to Rip Torner
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I don’t know if you are dense, naive, or just run of the mill stupid but it’s one or all of those combined. The Constitution is nothing more than a document written three centuries ago. It has been ignored/misinterpreted in the past, in the present, and will be in the future by judges and politicians alike. Quit being autistic about telling me it’s in the Constitution and realize that the Constitution is only as good as the people interpreting and enforcing it. A liberal SC can and will read the Constitution in the way that they deem fits the situation. You act as though some mythical force will step in and put a force field over the Constitution and protect it from misinterpretation lol
I love the irony of you insulting me when you are the dense one in this thread. We are not talking about some fairy tale of future Super Progressive Supreme Court rulings, we are talking about the actual procedures and how the checks and balances system outline by the US Constitution and Judicial Review actually works.
you are arguing the wrong thing and can not seem to understand the incorrect basic premise of the OP or pages of responses to him
you are confusing what the SC ruling something unconstitutional actually means.
repeat after me:
THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION IS ADDING AN AMENDMENT TO IT.
BY DEFINITION SOMETHING WRITTEN IN THE ACTUAL CONSTITUTION CAN NOT BE RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY A SUPREME COURT.
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The new liberal majority SC will simply rule the EC unconstitutional based on challenges put forth by Democrat states effectively ending enforcement.
is not possible
So the premise that the EC is removed in the future is possible if an amendment is to the Constitution is added abolishing the EC.
The premise that a future ultra liberal SC can rule the EC Unconstitutional and effectively throw it out is factually wrong. If that were to happen, the system and the institutions are corrupted and there is no point in having them any more anyway
The document can not be in contradiction with itself and be valid. Court makeup doesn't change their procedures and rules unless they are corrupted.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:46 am to Jbird
Slave owners were smarter than current day DEI Marxists and they can’t stand it.
DSA are the political Taliban.
DSA are the political Taliban.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:48 am to wackatimesthree
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I think he's just up on current events to know that the current SCOTUS is conservative and that they generally do follow the Constitution.
I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption to factor in.
the SC can be 9 absolute Marxists and it doesn't matter, they can not rule something in the Constitution as being Unconstitutional and just throw it out
the premise is factually wrong
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:50 am to Rip Torner
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We aren’t talking about the current court. We are talking about what happens to the court in the next 2-6 years. It will shift to the left dramatically is the premise
this alone does not matter, they do not have the power under the current system to do what you are saying they will do
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:52 am to TBPland
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The reality is nothing of substance will be done thankfully.
What makes you think the radicals and extremists won't do radical or extremist things?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:10 pm to ColoradoAg
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Electoral college is toast. With CA and TX both blue, Dems will abolish it as planned. If they were smart they would leave it though. They could never lose another election with 2/3 of the necessary votes
The electoral college being eliminated would cause a revolution. Justifiable revolution.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:53 pm to Rip Torner
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We are talking about what happens to the court in the next 2-6 years. It will shift to the left dramatically is the premise
It could, but there's no reason to assume it definitely will.
The only two justices who are getting up there in age have both said they have no plans to step down any time soon.
They can't pack the court while Trump is there to veto it and it's doubtful that they would even with a Democratic POTUS. If they do, they are idiots, because it guarantees that Republicans will just double-pack it when they take power again, and eventually we'll end up with 500 justices on the court.
Plus, everybody here is going nuts assuming that the Republicans can't win the White House again in 2028. That's also an assumption. That's two years away...just about anything could happen between now and then.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:54 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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The electoral college being eliminated would cause a revolution.
The average citizen couldn't even explain the electoral college to you.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:59 pm to supatigah
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the SC can be 9 absolute Marxists and it doesn't matter, they can not rule something in the Constitution as being Unconstitutional and just throw it out
They never have before, but that doesn't mean they couldn't if they wanted to.
Who would stop them? Article III specifically states that they have final authority over rulings.
The only recourse would be to pass a constitutional amendment designed to nullify the ruling or impeach the justices—which probably wouldn't remove the ruling, just the justices—and both of those require majorities that you wouldn't have in that scenario.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:05 pm to UtahCajun
They tend to use Massie to soothe.
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