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Educate me on the Eric Garner death. Killed by police?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:05 pm
The news updates keep reporting that he said "I can't breathe" a dozen times.
Well, if you can say that then you are breathing.
So how did he die? Are the police to blame?
I don't remember anything about this
Well, if you can say that then you are breathing.
So how did he die? Are the police to blame?
I don't remember anything about this
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:09 pm to Vecchio Cane
Narrative:
500 armed cops woke him up at 2 AM and dragged him outside and shot him a bagillion times.
IRL:
He was selling cigs and stolen shite on the street and resisted; cop put him in some kind of "chokehold" and he died.
500 armed cops woke him up at 2 AM and dragged him outside and shot him a bagillion times.
IRL:
He was selling cigs and stolen shite on the street and resisted; cop put him in some kind of "chokehold" and he died.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:10 pm to Vecchio Cane
He died of a heart attack.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:12 pm to TigerintheNO
Is that a woman of color in uniform there?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:13 pm to Vecchio Cane
He was a good boy, about to start college
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:13 pm to Vecchio Cane
He could barely brwath when he was just standing there.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:14 pm to Vecchio Cane
The store owners, where he was illegally peddling cigarettes in front of their stores, called the police to have him removed. He had been told multiple times so when they showed up they told him he was under arrest. He didn't comply and they took him down to the ground to cuff him. He was vary large and was complaining about not being able to breathe but he kept resisting.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:15 pm to Vecchio Cane
fatass career criminal resisted arrest from 5 cops and died of asthma attack. family received a cool 5.9 million
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:17 pm to Vecchio Cane
It was excessive. He definitely has some responsibility, but there is no way it should have ended that way.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:17 pm to Wtodd
quote:that's just awful. It's a shame that let him live as long as they did.
He was selling cigs and stolen shite on the street
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:19 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:
It was excessive. He definitely has some responsibility, but there is no way it should have ended that way.
Yeah, that choke hold looks like a bit much, but the guy was apparently still talking.
I just don't remember this at all. Sad.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:29 pm to Vecchio Cane
He bees kilt by Whitey
No matter he was 6-5 350# and resisting arrest
No matter he was 6-5 350# and resisting arrest
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:32 pm to Vecchio Cane
Two things are to blame:
1. Arcane laws that prohibit exchange of goods without government interference.
2. Police state established to enforce said laws.
1. Arcane laws that prohibit exchange of goods without government interference.
2. Police state established to enforce said laws.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:38 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:
He definitely has some responsibility
He has all of the responsibility.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:40 pm to Wtodd
quote:
cop put him in some kind of "chokehold" and he died.
Morbidly obese fricker had a heart attack and died while resisting a lawful arrest.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:42 pm to Vecchio Cane
For a second I thought those were Alton Sterling pics.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:51 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:
The news updates keep reporting that he said "I can't breathe" a dozen times. Well, if you can say that then you are breathing.
This isn’t actually true. But it’s fun to repeat.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:01 pm to the808bass
quote:
This isn’t actually true. But it’s fun to repeat.
so you can say something twelve times without breathing?
The vocal chords make noise without air?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:04 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:
The lungs have what are called "Volumes" and "Capacities". The link describes all of them. For our purposes, you need to understand these two phrases: Functional Reserve Capacity (the amount of air left in the lungs after a normal exhalation) and Expiratory Reserve Volume (the amount of air you can still force out of your lungs after a normal exhalation). When you take a normal breath you breathe in and out you are breathing about 500ml of air. After breathing out, you are left with ~2400ml of air inside your lungs, this is the Functional Reserve Capacity. If you try to force out as much air as possible, you can still force out ~1200ml more air. This is the Expiratory Reserve Volume. This is air you are able to speak with even if you cannot take a normal breath.
Important Note: Notice that the Expiratory Reserve Volume is more than twice the size of a normal breath. That is a lot of air you are able to force out, and a lot of speaking you can do even if you can't breathe. The lungs work on negative pressure. So, your lungs, when you breathe in, are at a lower pressure than the outside air. This draws the air into them. This is caused by your diaphragm and intercostal muscles. Your lungs are very elastic, and will move back to their normal size during exhalation. This is where the problem begins for officers. If you are kneeling on a suspect, or you have them handcuffed on the ground so that they are on their chest, there is a strong possibility that you can cut off their ability to breathe. Once the lungs begin to exhale, they collapse, but if you they are being pressed down on by body weight, they may not be able to re-expand. They then continue to collapse, forcing out the Functional Reserve Capacity of air, but not drawing in a new breath. So, your suspect may be pleading for breath, they may actually be incapable of drawing one in, and the reason is you.
If someone is saying they cannot breathe, you need to believe them, because you might be killing them. Furthermore, during any kind of physical altercation, that person may be breathing deeply and rapidly, making their lungs collapse faster when you are kneeling on them or holding them on the ground.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 2:07 pm
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