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Dynamics of the country: Left vs. Right

Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:14 pm
The left boycotts Chik-Fil-A = Chick Fil A doesn't change their philosophy, they do not suffer financially.

The right boycotts NFL. After doubling down on stupid, the NFL desperately backpeddles along with other NFL teams. DirecTV offers refunds of their Sunday Ticket.

Remember that, and the 2016 election, when the media tries to tell you that liberal ideals are consistent with the majority of the country.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:27 pm to
The ideals and actions of the vocal minority of the left are not entirely consistent with the majority of liberals.

Most liberals don't give a frick what Chikfila does. Most liberals like living in a free country, and accept that we all do.

This NFL/Trump debacle tells me that conservatives are much more petty than your average liberal.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48308 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:29 pm to
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This NFL/Trump debacle tells me that conservatives are much more petty than your average liberal.


Why does the left call the right petty for boycotting something they don't agree with? I thought this country was started because of a boycott?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:37 pm to
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Why does the left call the right petty for boycotting something they don't agree with?
Because it's petty. I still have a right to my opinion, right?
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I thought this country was started because of a boycott?
Yeah man, have at it. Be my guest, deprive yourself of something you like for absolutely no legit reason.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260427 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Be my guest, deprive yourself of something you like for absolutely no legit reason.


Fortunately your opinion of what is valid is limited to yourself
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48308 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Yeah man, have at it. Be my guest, deprive yourself of something you like for absolutely no legit reason.


Woh woh woh Ms Lippy. If I liked it that much I wouldn't deprive myself. My convictions about this are only superficial. NFL has been going downhill a lot. This just gave me the perfect excuse to play golf on sundays now too. Plus the Presidents cup team said they will stand like men. I almost have to play golf on sundays now.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:42 pm to
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The left boycotts Chik-Fil-A = Chick Fil A doesn't change their philosophy, they do not suffer financially.

I posted about this yesterday.

The REACTION for Chic Fil A was key.

IE, they didn't.

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The right boycotts NFL. After doubling down on stupid, the NFL desperately backpeddles along with other NFL teams. DirecTV offers refunds of their Sunday Ticket.

Meanwhile, the NFL guys......and more importantly, their defenders.........decided to just basically make fun of anyone who would think kneeling was not a good thing..........and, in many cases, called thinking this racist........and, tripled down by often talking about how shitty America was.

The former, by remaining basically mum, simply drove on.

The latter, managed to piss off entire swaths of people WAY beyond just those griping about the kneeling.

Well. That. And, um. The NFL might want to take a peek in the seats of their stadiums the next time they decide that going all in on the "America's racist" theme starts to make sense to them.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4471 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:44 pm to
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The ideals and actions of the vocal minority of the left are not entirely consistent with the majority of liberals.


But close enough...
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18780 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:46 pm to
My wife's best friend is gay and he loves Chick-Fil-A. A little gay-hating isn't gonna keep him from eating a delicious chicken sandwich, some waffle fries, and sweet tea.

This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:51 pm to
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If I liked it that much I wouldn't deprive myself. My convictions about this are only superficial.

Yeah, I suspect a lot of these proclaimed boycotters feel the same.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11318 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:54 pm to
Your wife's best friend is a homosexual and not you? WTF.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18780 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:56 pm to
Best friend other than me. He's a good dude.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17162 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:56 pm to
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Because it's petty. I still have a right to my opinion, right?


I suppose it was petty when the Left was calling for boycotts of states making insane persons bathroom bills? When the Left was calling for sponsor boycotts against states and localities no allowing insane people to wander in and out of public bathrooms in private businesses?
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:58 pm to
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This NFL/Trump debacle tells me that conservatives are much more petty than your average liberal

This is hilarious.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:02 pm to
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when the media tries to tell you that liberal ideals are consistent with the majority of the country.


Headline in USA Today, print, sports:
"NFL Winning in Battle Against Trump"
Narrative: 'NFL, Coaches, Players all unite against Trump."

They left out one group... fans
Posted by jmitc22
Brrrrr
Member since Jan 2007
1683 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:04 pm to
I firmly believe that citizens, on average, are much more middle than left or right.

The problem is that the vocal minorities on the political spectrum (I'm NOT talking about racial minorities) get the most attention. And people love a little type drama and sensationalism (human nature) so they feed the beasts on both extremes by giving them a disproportionate level of attention.

Add into the mix that politicians can play to these issues and increase their visibility, and you have a system that encourages addressing fringe viewpoints rather than tackling mainstream (boring) problems.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:07 pm to
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I firmly believe that citizens, on average, are much more middle than left or right.


There are a lot of self ID studies. Most have 'conservative' ahead of 'liberal.' Perhaps because liberal has become such a dirty word that they changed their name to progressive.

Political knowledge tests are consistent. Those who ID as 'left' or 'right' score much higher than 'moderates.'
Conclusion is that 'moderates' don't pay enough attention to politics to know what they think.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:14 pm to
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The left boycotts Chik-Fil-A


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they do not suffer financially


How's that work?

Either "the left" never boycotted or never went to Chik-Fil-A in the first place, if Chik-Fil-A never paid a financial price.

I guess a third option is that the Poliboard contingent now exclusively takes all their meals there as a counterbalance to some boycott.

Posted by jmitc22
Brrrrr
Member since Jan 2007
1683 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:16 pm to
I've seen some of those studies. Some are based on people's self-identification of whether they are left or right. If you've ever watched a YouTube video interviewing voters, it will destroy your faith that anyone actually knows the issues, regardless of how they identify. So, many labels and self identifications may be incorrect. You Facist :)
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:16 pm to
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My wife's best friend is gay and he loves Chick-Fil-A. A little gay-hating is gonna keep him from eating a delicious chicken sandwich, some waffle fries, and sweet tea.


Kinda like how Trumpkins aren't allowed to watch football anymore.
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