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re: Drunk Grandma Admits They Are Powerless to Send US MIL Assets into Ukraine (Video)

Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:10 pm to
Recently an IG came out with a scathing report on them not speaking about China just to get Trump politically. It is horrid. It is unacceptable. Yet everyone forgot about it already. Muh Ukraine.

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Intelligence analysts downplayed Chinese election influence to avoid supporting Trump policies, inspector finds

Politicization problems exist in U.S. spy agency assessments on foreign influence in the 2020 U.S. election, including analysts who appeared to hold back information on Chinese meddling efforts because they disagreed with the Trump administration's policies, according to an intelligence community inspector.

Barry Zulauf, an analytic ombudsman and longtime intelligence official, issued a 14-page report obtained by the Washington Examiner to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday, revealing his investigation was “conducted in response to IC complaints regarding the election threat issue." In addition, he lamented the “polarized atmosphere has threatened to undermine the foundations of our Republic, penetrating even into the Intelligence Community.”

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Posted by DownHome
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:35 pm to
Yes they want the J6 coms and the courts gave them access, but so far for the PEAD's nothing. There have been claims that this applies to the PEAD's, but still nada. Hell if I remember correctly the media and dems claimed potato could declassified yet nada.

Oh how I would love to know what are in those. It would answer so many questions and put a lot this back and forth bullshite to rest.

I would like to think that we all can have a civil conversation without calling each other names like qtard or angry grandma with sand in her vag. You and others believe what you will and I and others believe what we will. This is the beauty of conversation to discuss different thoughts whether we agree or not. That was the beauty of the Q thread information shared and discussed. Unfortunately somethings brought up were quite outrageous between JFK being alive and the date fagging it labeled everyone as crazy. As one of the most famous lines Q said "future proves past" seems to be coming reality lately. Let's sit back and see what happens someone will be right someone will be wrong.

Getting late and time for bed.

Peace out

Oh one last thing. Did BoarEd get banned again? Have not seen him post in a couple of days

Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:52 am to
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Recently an IG came out with a scathing report on them not speaking about China just to get Trump politically. It is horrid. It is unacceptable. Yet everyone forgot about it already. Muh Ukraine.

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Look here [RUSSIA]
Do not look here [China]
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:13 am to
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I thought they wanted J6 communications.

They say the want J6 communications. This is a cover story. Dem leadership and RINOs are flipping the frick out because they have no idea what Trump's people know about what went on from J6 to the Fauxnauguration.
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The PEADS should be public.

We'll have to agree to disagree there. So long as this sham administration are pretenders to the throne, they are the single largest national security risk our republic faces, foreign or domestic. As their usurpation continues, as does the need for conservatorship of the USAF. This goes double for the need for protective cover, should our devolution scenario very well be running under the hood.

IIRC, there have never been PEADs made public by any administration. The closest thing we've seen to what one might look like was the draft EO that was "left behind" in the Executive Privilege docs that the J6 Unselect Committee sued to obtain. I do not believe its inclusion was an accident. That move was very deliberate, and I believe it was a shot over the bow to the DS hacks currently hijacking our government.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, the simplest thing for folks to do would be to read Part 13, if they're interested in understanding where we're coming from. This installment details the devolution framework with respect to EO13961, as well clarifying other national security operations. (LadyLuckUGA linked this EO yesterday).

There's a lot of meat on the bone for part 13, and if I bring over the info that's relevant to the discussion to make the case for our Devolution scenario as established in EO 13961 and the supporting documents from prior administrations (plot twist - some of this is built on Presidential Policy Directive 40 established during the Hussein error), I may as well C&P the whole thing.


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PPD-40 itself is still classified. As such, we have no way of figuring out the full specifics within that document, but we are still able to learn a few important things about it from documents put forth by FEMA through Federal Continuity Directive 1 & Federal Continuity Directive 2. Both were created based on what is in PPD-40.

Federal Continuity Directive 1 (FCD-1) - Establishes the framework, requirements, and processes to support the development of executive department and agencies continuity programs by specifying and defining elements of a continuity plan.

Federal Continuity Directive 2 (FCD-2) - This directive implements the requirements of FCD-1 and provides direction and guidance to all departments and agencies.

The Federal Continuity Directive create the framework for implementation for all continuity programs for the executive branch. FCD-1 even has an entire annex dedicated to Devolution:

Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:28 am to
This is probably a good time to remind those who are watching from the stands and even slightly intrigued about why some of us are so passionate/adamant about the devolution concept as it applies to our current debacle, the best way to get clarity on the matter is not to take the word of anyone in this thread or others about the matter.

On either side of the argument. Including me. Especially me.

I've read more than enough to see for myself, and whether or not you end up in the same place as me, or are of the opposite opinion, I hope you do so having considered all the information at hand. I'd caution against basing it on clever(?) quips and retorts from a usual cast of characters who have inexplicably committed to having taken a contrarian position.

"This is fan fiction" is a favorite criticism when it comes to Devolution. That serves as an indicator to me that they haven't gotten to the end of a single article written by PatelPatriot on the matter, because anyone who has read his work understands that it's all sourced to the hilt with links, cited references and evidence that's publicly available to make his case. In the limited cases for where the author speculates, he states as much, but by and large, it's all backed up and you're able to access the same information that he has.

Part 13 that I linked above is potentially the most important if you're a person who wants to see the bones of this concept. It more than adequately demonstrates that the framework for Devolution as a means of safeguarding the republic from a stolen election with foreign assistance/interference.

Your mileage may vary, but I hope you're at least willing to do the work.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:40 am to
"This is probably a good time to remind those who are watching from the stands and even slightly intrigued about why some of us are so passionate/adamant about the devolution concept as it applies to our current debacle, the best way to get clarity on the matter is not to take the word of anyone in this thread or others about the matter."

true words of wisdom

seek for yourself,
and God will help with the rest

Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:17 am to
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seek for yourself,

This is the part that lots of folks who want to claim understanding on the matter get tripped up on.

Some retard comes along in a fit of self-perceived cleverness with "Cliffs?" or the Michael Scott "Explain this to me like I'm five," and they aren't willing to get into the thick of it and engage their gray matter.
Posted by Hawaiian Punch
Member since Jan 2018
971 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:22 am to
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Do we have 100% ironclad proof that the MIL combatant commanders are in charge of the US armed forces right now? No


Just to play devil’s advocate, but the Afghanistan fiasco was evidence enough for me that Obiden’s dickhead commanders are indeed calling the shots.

I want to believe that devolution is the play here, but I have a hard time seeing the DC establishment honoring anything President Trump might have done during his final days in Office. These people regularly wipe their arse with the Constitution; I would be absolutely shocked if they decided to start playing ball because of an executive order signed by POTUS DJT.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:30 am to
TV Generals in the JCOS, Clown Gen. Milley and others are not the ones with the keys in our theory.

I'll refer you to Part 9 - The Military for more details on that.

From the intro:

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The Joint Chiefs
The Joint Chiefs of Staff is the body of the most senior uniformed leaders within the United States Department of Defense. Their primary function is to serve as advisers to the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, the Homeland Security Council and the National Security Council on military matters. The Joint Chiefs of Staff consists of a chairman (CJCS), a vice chairman (VJCS), and the service chiefs of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and the chief of the National Guard Bureau. Each of the individual service chiefs, outside their JCS obligations, work directly under the secretaries of their respective military departments, e.g. the secretary of the Army, the secretary of the Navy, and the secretary of the Air Force.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff are nowhere within the Chain of Command.



As part of their advisory role, the Joint Chiefs of Staff create what is called the Joint Doctrine:


Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:31 am to
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I have a hard time seeing the DC establishment honoring anything President Trump might have done during his final days in Office. These people regularly wipe their arse with the Constitution; I would be absolutely shocked if they decided to start playing ball because of an executive order signed by POTUS DJT.

None of them are in the loop on this. Their cooperation is neither required nor requested.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:33 am to
Christ, If she has anymore facelifts, her eyebrows will be on he hairline...
Posted by Hawaiian Punch
Member since Jan 2018
971 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:58 am to
Thanks for the link/resources - I’ll check it out.

After everything we’ve witnessed over the past few years, I hardly write-off anything as a “crazy, impossible conspiracy theory” anymore.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
75366 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:03 pm to
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the Afghanistan fiasco was evidence enough for me that Obiden’s dickhead commanders are indeed calling the shots.

I was just reminded of something: Your premise was that the handling of the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan "was evidence enough for me" that Sleepy's/Hussein's folks were calling the shots.

Remember that after the victory was assigned to Biden by the MSM (many states were still counting, allegedly auditing, etc), Trump made some massive moves within the DOD. I've documented some of those critical ones, but the most important were the dismissal of Mark Esper as SecDef, the appointment of Christopher Miller as Acting SecDef, and the promotion of Kash Patel and Ezra Cohen-Watnick to key civilian command positions. These moves are outlined in great detail in PP's Devolution series.

In the midst of the debacle that was the Afghanistan withdrawal, the MSM carried the sham administration's water on the grounds that "Trump was going to remove troops in May! This same thing would have happened earlier under his watch!"

Former Acting SecDef Miller came forward on Aug 19, 2021 and stated for the record that the May 2021 withdrawal deal with the Taliban was merely a negotiating ploy. Miller goes on to say the operational framework for Afghanistan was going to be to hold the country and support the AFG military with a force of 800 Spec Ops troops.

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While serving on the National Security Council, Miller said it was determined that the US could continue to run counterterrorism missions in Afghanistan with only 800 military personnel.

“We did plenty of wargames on this and we knew what the minimal force structure was,” he said. “The number was 800. If this all goes bad, what is the minimal force structure needed to maintain [counterterrorism] strike and reconnaissance capability? We can do it for 800, 850.


Those familiar with Miller's history should recognize that if anyone possesses the ability to assess SpecOps capabilities, it's Christopher Miller.

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The revelations in the report dispute President Biden’s claim that his hands were tied on mounting a full withdrawal because of the agreement Trump negotiated with the Taliban.

“When I came into office, I inherited a deal that President Trump negotiated with the Taliban,” Biden said in remarks at the White House on Monday. “Under his agreement, US forces would be out of Afghanistan by May 1, 2021 … US forces had already drawn down during the Trump administration from roughly 15,500 American forces to 2,500 troops in the country, and the Taliban was at its strongest militarily since 2001.”

“The choice I had to make as your president,” he added, “was either to follow through on that agreement, or be prepared to go back to fighting the Taliban in the middle of the spring fighting season. There would have been no cease-fire after May 1. There was no agreement protecting our forces after May 1.”?


The abrupt full withdrawal of US forces in Afghanistan was 180 to the plan Miller had in place to attempt to avoid the descent into chaos we all witnessed in August of 2021.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:59 pm to
"The abrupt full withdrawal of US forces in Afghanistan was 180 to the plan Miller had in place to attempt to avoid the descent into chaos we all witnessed in August of 2021."

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