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re: Drumpf wants to take away your plastic guns!

Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:46 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:46 am to
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Your “Drumpf” nickname sounds like a child made it up.



He is making fun of the people that made up the term.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:46 am to
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Reminder: The NRA isn't an organization that cares about gun owners. It's an organization that cares about gun manufacturers.


While mostly true, by proxy, they defend the 2nd, and are a large force to do so...

Without them, judges would've all but eliminated it...

I know it's difficult for you to see, but that is why hordes of pro-liberty people support the NRA.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59183 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:46 am to
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I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public.


1. The issue people are sky-screaming over isn't the possible sale, it's the availability of 3D plans (which makes it a 1st Amendment issue, not a 2nd Amendment issue).

2. Anyone selling a printed gun would fall under the same laws as someone selling a name brand firearm (Ruger, S&W, etc)

3. Those same plans can be used in a higher-end printer to make metal firearms

4. If this is such an issue then what would be the difference between someone incorporating and producing such arms as a business versus using traditional machinery?
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 8:47 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:47 am to
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Guns are cheap and easy to get right now. I agree with Trump on this one.


Hot take. You read that on a crackerjack box?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:48 am to
Since the ATF recently ruled .50 ar15 uppers are firearms, I would expect new rulings from them and in typical ATF fashion go exceedingly too far and start classifying parts as firearms. They already classify features on semi autos as non sporting but same features are sporting on other platforms. They already used the 1968 GCA to prohibit imported barrels. Would not surprise me to see them place restrictions and licensing nonsense on accessory manufacturers like magazines.



Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39220 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:50 am to
Wouldn’t the bullets set off a metal detector?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76412 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:50 am to
When they outlaw guns I will need a 3-D printer perhaps. Till then I'm good.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:51 am to
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3. Those same plans can be used in a higher-end printer to make metal firearms


If you are going there you might as well go the traditional route. It's going to be just as if not more expensive.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:54 am to
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4. If this is such an issue then what would be the difference between someone incorporating and producing such arms as a business versus using traditional machinery?


I don't believe the issue is hobby or home use. You can make your own metal or plastic guns as much as you want.

I believe the issue is, plastic firearms should fall under the same regs as metal firearms.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6749 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:56 am to
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I've no problem with Trump being concerned about 3D guns.
I agree with you. My concern would be with the safety of a plastic gun and what might happen to the person using it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:03 am to
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While mostly true


Not mostly true, literally true. The NRA will pick manufacturers over gun owners every time the choice diverges.

Unless Russia tells them to go the other way, I guess.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:03 am to
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Not mostly true, literally true. The NRA will pick manufacturers over gun owners every time the choice diverges.


Fact
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:04 am to
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believe the issue is, plastic firearms should fall under the same regs as metal firearms


But they won't, because nobody can stop them.



What a win for the good guys.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70420 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:11 am to
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How much, if any, metal is there in a 3-D gun? I could understand the concern over the ease of getting one through a metal detector.


There are two metal parts: the barrel and firing pin. If the barrel is metal, it’s not getting through a metal detector.

However, if one chooses to 3D print the barrel as well, it will get through a metal detector, but Will only be capable of firing a single shot before the barrel melts and becomes unusable.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:13 am to
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My concern would be with the safety of a plastic gun and what might happen to the person using it.



Why is that any of your concern if an adult makes the choice to create and use such an item?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122677 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:13 am to
He gives in way too easily on guns
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:14 am to
Almost all politicians do.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:17 am to
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I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns


I had these when I was a kid, what's the big deal? I also have the real guns now
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:19 am to
You don’t live in a country where guns are outlawed. The printed gun gives those people freedom.

Sorry, meant to reply to someone else
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:21 am to
Whatever trump says is what I agree with

Even if he forgets a pretty important part of a word
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