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Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:04 pm to
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This is just another avenue to the sexualization of kids, which includes grooming and a whole host of other terrible things involving children...


BULLSEYE
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28067 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:04 pm to
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The police were called and he was reported to CPS. Is that right?


No. But abusus non tollit usum.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:04 pm to
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I really dont have a good answer.


I can accept this but you really think kids should be allowed to be exposed to this kind of thing in public? We already have plenty of laws that address "adult restrictions" on the presence of kids for things like this...

It would not require laws if the general public would demand this kind of thing stop...
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Serious question, what about that statement makes me a bad mom? I try to expose my kids to people who are genuinely good people regardless of their political leanings.


Genuinely good people don't want others to subsidize their lives.

Genuinely good people don't clamor for more gun laws after every mass shooting.

Genuinely good people don't vote for a pedophile who sexually assaulted his daughter in the shower and gropes little children.

Genuinely good people don't vote for a guy who says he will have an open border, and give "free" healthcare to illegals who give our country the middle finger.

I could go on and on.

Those people should be kept away from civilized people.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:06 pm to
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It would not require laws


I'm against laws, but I sure am not against calling out parents who push their children into early sexualized situations.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:08 pm to
Fair enough.

Where do we draw the line on sexualization specifically then? Only when men dress up and perform sexually suggestive routines? Or do we extend that to Rhianna, Beyonce and Elvis?

Again, I am not advocating for drag shows to be all ages. I think they should be limited to bars with 21+ admission. However, once you wish for govt involvement you open the door to more than what you asked for.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Or do we extend that to Rhianna, Beyonce and Elvis?


Most parents wouldn't or didn't take elementary age kids to any of these shows.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:12 pm to
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general public would demand this kind of thing stop


This is the correct answer. As a society we have that choice. I advocate for making those choices. Support your virtues through all available avenues. Boycotts, choice for residency, school decisions. For instance, if no one ever went to that bar again, your problem is solved.
Posted by SoggyBottomBaw
Live Free Or Die
Member since Nov 2022
696 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:14 pm to
Wonder if she got any splinters in her ball sack?...
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:16 pm to
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If something like this came to my kids school or any other place my kids frequent I would put a stop to it because that is a part of parenting.

But it does, when kids that are sexualized by their parents go to school with your kids and they start to introduce it to them. No different than trying to avoid having your kid hang out with certain kids, because you know their parents have introduced them to things that don't mesh with what you want them to learn.

Why teachers in places in CA are getting fired if they don't agree to hiding/lying to parents if their child is being mentally "transitioned".
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Genuinely good people don't want others to subsidize their lives.

Genuinely good people don't clamor for more gun laws after every mass shooting.

Genuinely good people don't vote for a pedophile who sexually assaulted his daughter in the shower and gropes little children.

Genuinely good people don't vote for a guy who says he will have an open border, and give "free" healthcare to illegals who give our country the middle finger.


bullshite. Lots of genuinely GREAT people voted for Trump. He said a lot of dumb things and partied with hookers, drag queens and blow all over studio 54 and other NYC landmarks. Lots of genuinely GREAT people voted for Biden and he is the most gump of them all. You are probably a great person and dont vote like me but you take care of your family, neighbor and community. You likely contribute to society and care about others. You are more than how you vote and your worth is not determined by your political thoughts.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28067 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Where do we draw the line on sexualization specifically then?


I'm not sure. I just know that a line currently exists, fuzzy as it may be, so pretending (not you necessarily) that we can't draw a line at all is sophistry.

It's very similar to the 20+ page we just had on age verification for porn, where people insisted that because some forms of moral legislation are bad ideas they're all bad ideas, which is also sophistry.

Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:20 pm to
I remember Jim Morrison, GiGi Allen, and a few others arrested on stage for indecency. Where are those laws? Couldn't they simply be enforced now?
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Why teachers in places in CA are getting fired if they don't agree to hiding/lying to parents if their child is being mentally "transitioned".


Link, please?

My children are in public schools in California. I would like more info on this.

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Most parents wouldn't or didn't take elementary age kids to any of these shows.

shite, I am worried about taking mine to see John Cougar Mellencamp
Thats their first concert in March. If he shows up in a dress we are leaving.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:23 pm to
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I don’t understand the infatuation with drag queens right now.



It divides the country.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Good on you for not taking your kids but gtfo with the "ignore it" crap...

Comon Maj...."silence is violence" has been there so many times to spike. Ha. Good job in the thread.

Sad how protecting kids from sexualization, as a society, is now "deeply entrenched ideology" by "Zealots" according to the board lefties. What an embarrassing testament to their upbringing.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28067 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:25 pm to
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I remember Jim Morrison, GiGi Allen, and a few others arrested on stage for indecency. Where are those laws? Couldn't they simply be enforced now?




That's why I said earlier that this sort of enforcement is inherently subjective, because it's going to be in general terms like "indecent" or "obscene". Subjectivity in the law is generally a bad idea but sometimes necessary, because you cannot possibly list everything that might be considered obscene.

So to answer your question, assuming those laws are still on the books they could be enforced IF enough people thought what was happening was obscene. And that's assuming it's a law the DA cares to enforce, because if Soros funded them it's a safe bet they won't. The political component is as big or bigger than the legal one here.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:26 pm to
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What an embarrassing testament to their upbringing.


I was brought up in the woods of Alabama and raised by strong arse country people. Tell me more about my upbringing.

You are far more like the fringe people on the otherside than you care to admit.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:29 pm to
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That's why I said earlier that this sort of enforcement is inherently subjective, because it's going to be in general terms like "indecent" or "obscene"


I agree. That subjectivity is the issue.

Sidebar: What was the show with Tom Hanks where he dressed like a woman with his roommate. It was in the same era as Tootsie...
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:29 pm to
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quote:

Why teachers in places in CA are getting fired if they don't agree to hiding/lying to parents if their child is being mentally "transitioned".



Link, please?

LINK ]Christian teacher loses job after refusing to deceive parents on kids' gender transitions (Fox News)
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