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Dorothy's ruby red slippers were stolen and found years later by the FBI
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:03 am
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:03 am
It was a story on BBC because this particular pair just sold at auction.
There are four pair, one is at the Smithsonian and the other three private collectors. This one collector originally bought his at an auction when the studio sold off all the stuff, he got a pair, witches broom, several other items for 2 grand.
He loaned them to the Judy Garland museum for their anniversary and they were stolen. The FBI searched for years. Then a bartender overheard a conversation where a fella was lamenting he had tried for years to sell them but with no provenance (proof they were real) he couldnt sell them. The bartender called the FBI and they seized and once again, as they had many times before, took them to the Smithsonian for them to identify.
The curator took one look and said these are real. You see these six off colored sequins? Apparently when Judy Garland wore them some sequins fell off and they must have run to a local dime store, bought some red sequins and glued them on. They didnt have to match perfectly, remember it was black and white back then. Ours have the same "spares" glued on.
And there is one other proof. The curator then took both pairs and put each pair side by side. The FBI said both pairs are mismatched, they arent the same size. The curator said apparently during the auction we got one of his shoes and he got one of ours. You see one original pair was half a size smaller so when Dorothy danced down the yellow brick road her shoes would not fall off. Thats why ours are always displayed "off set" so you cant tell they dont match.
His pair was auctioned off last week for 28 million dollars.
There are four pair, one is at the Smithsonian and the other three private collectors. This one collector originally bought his at an auction when the studio sold off all the stuff, he got a pair, witches broom, several other items for 2 grand.
He loaned them to the Judy Garland museum for their anniversary and they were stolen. The FBI searched for years. Then a bartender overheard a conversation where a fella was lamenting he had tried for years to sell them but with no provenance (proof they were real) he couldnt sell them. The bartender called the FBI and they seized and once again, as they had many times before, took them to the Smithsonian for them to identify.
The curator took one look and said these are real. You see these six off colored sequins? Apparently when Judy Garland wore them some sequins fell off and they must have run to a local dime store, bought some red sequins and glued them on. They didnt have to match perfectly, remember it was black and white back then. Ours have the same "spares" glued on.
And there is one other proof. The curator then took both pairs and put each pair side by side. The FBI said both pairs are mismatched, they arent the same size. The curator said apparently during the auction we got one of his shoes and he got one of ours. You see one original pair was half a size smaller so when Dorothy danced down the yellow brick road her shoes would not fall off. Thats why ours are always displayed "off set" so you cant tell they dont match.
His pair was auctioned off last week for 28 million dollars.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:07 am to trinidadtiger
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remember it was black and white back then.
Completely wrong.
Try again.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:15 am to ksayetiger
Half wrong actually. Amirite?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:40 am to trinidadtiger
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They didnt have to match perfectly, remember it was black and white back then.
The first third of the movie was in black and white. But once Dorothy emerged from her house, after the twister scene ... everything was in Technicolor Process 4.
The story of the ruby slippers is interesting. Some claim that they, along with the witch's broom, are the most iconic movie props in history. 1939 is generally considered the greatest year in terms of movie releases as well. The other greatest prop, which I believe has been lost for all time, is the Rosebud sled used in Citizen Kane.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:02 am to scrooster
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The other greatest prop, which I believe has been lost for all time, is the Rosebud sled used in Citizen Kane.
I’ve never seen the movie, but I bet the Maltese Falcon is up there.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:44 am to dstone12
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I’ve never seen the movie, but I bet the Maltese Falcon is up there.
Another 1941 movie, as was Citizen Kane. And I'll bet you're right.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/02/mystery-of-the-maltese-falcon
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:48 am to trinidadtiger
My USMA classmate was the FBI agent that found them.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:49 am to trinidadtiger
There used to be a pair of them in Ted Turner's little personal museum at the CNN Center in Atlanta. I don't know if it's still there after the corporate mergers he's gone through since I saw them in the early 90s.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:50 am to trinidadtiger
In Baum's book, Dorothy's slippers were silver. Which the belief was that in the story Dorothy represented the common person, so silver was a fitting metaphor.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:58 am to scrooster
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1939 is generally considered the greatest year in terms of movie releases as well
Until 1994.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:09 am to Tuscaloosa
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Until 1994.
Yeah ... I dunno. Tough to beat 1939.
What metric are you using?
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The year 1939 in film is widely considered the greatest year in film history. The ten films nominated for Best Picture at the 12th Academy Awards (which honored the best in film for 1939)—Dark Victory, Gone with the Wind, Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Love Affair, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, and Wuthering Heights—range in genre and are considered classics.[1]
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_in_film
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:35 am to scrooster
That is one heck of a line up Rooster, wow.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:44 am to trinidadtiger
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That is one heck of a line up Rooster, wow.
That's just the ones nominated because there was a ten film limit.
There were a ton more classics that came out in 1939 not on that list.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:07 am to armytiger96
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My USMA classmate was the FBI agent that found them.
Sounds like the bartender found them and your classmate went and picked them up.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:24 am to trinidadtiger
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remember it was black and white back then.
Felt like you needed a lone downvote for this egregious mistake.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:30 am to trinidadtiger
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His pair was auctioned off last week for 28 million dollars
Actually brought $32,500,000.00. 28 million may have been his cut though.

Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:54 am to scrooster
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What metric are you using?
My own biases, mostly.
Forrest Gump
Shawshank Redemption
The Lion King
Pulp Fiction
True Lies
The Little Rascals
Dumb & Dumber
The Mask
Clerks
Natural Born Killers
Speed
Little Giants
Ace Ventura, Pet Detective
D2 Mighty Ducks
The Santa Clause
Forrest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, & Pulp Fiction all rank inside the Top 11 on IMDB.

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