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re: Donald Trump Jr says Zelensky doesn’t want peace
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:42 am to John Barron
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:42 am to John Barron
We need to just step away entirely. Neither side wants peace so we just let them bleed each other out. The whole fear that after Ukraine Putin was going to roll into Europe is ridiculous. Russia does not have the desire or capability to go any farther than Ukraine.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:43 am to John Barron
Zelensky is a cocaine addict
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:44 am to John Barron
It’s obvious that Zelensky is being paid by the military industrial complex. He has sold his soul for unforeseen wealth. He doesn’t care about his people.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:48 am to YouKnowImRight
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He's being told surrender or else by his ally.
I wouldn't be overjoyed about signing up either.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:03 pm to coolpapaboze
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My guess is that his life expectancy after this ends will be measured in months he knows this. He'll fall out a window at some point in the not too distant future.
Or, when all is lost he can run off to Switzerland to be with his secret bank account.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:31 pm to John Barron
The problem is that Ukraine is a money pit. There are more natural resources there that the entire world fawns over. Besides the vast oil reserves, there is a vast supply of lithium and other valuable minerals. The globalist don't want this falling into Russias hands.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:35 pm to YouKnowImRight
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He's being told surrender or else by his ally.
Wrong Trump isn't his ally, Trump doesn't like the guy. Trump is trying to get us out of spending billions of more dollars there than Biden had already spent. And I honestly believe Trump when he says he just wants people to stop dying.
What does Zelensky want? So far he wants state dinners for people to talk to him, he wants to vacation across Europe begging for money, he wants his tenure as president to appear more successful than his failed tv show playing a president, he wants a comfortable palace to live in while they snatch people off the street to fight, he wants the world to keep funding his wife's shopping trips in Paris. Funny I haven't heard anything he wants for his people
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:23 pm to John Barron
If the only territorial concession is Crimea then Z is a fricking idiot not to accept that deal.
Take the W and end the war
Take the W and end the war
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:39 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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What does Zelensky want? So far he wants state dinners for people to talk to him, he wants to vacation across Europe begging for money, he wants his tenure as president to appear more successful than his failed tv show playing a president, he wants a comfortable palace to live in while they snatch people off the street to fight, he wants the world to keep funding his wife's shopping trips in Paris. Funny I haven't heard anything he wants for his people
This is so ridiculous, it comes off as farce.
What does Zelensky want? Maybe he wants territorial integrity of his country - you know, control over his own borders just like you want for us. Maybe he wants his country's sovereignty to be respected by his neighbors - just like you do.
Why are so many on this board holding Zelensky to different standards than they would hold their own heads of state in a similar circumstance? Who here wouldn't fight to the death for their country? Why would we expect differently from others?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:41 pm to Harry Boutte
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This is so ridiculous, it comes off as farce. What does Zelensky want? Maybe he wants territorial integrity of his country - you know, control over his own borders just like you want for us. Maybe he wants his country's sovereignty to be respected by his neighbors - just like you do. Why are so many on this board holding Zelensky to different standards than they would hold their own heads of state in a similar circumstance? Who here wouldn't fight to the death for their country? Why would we expect differently from others?
Zelenskyy can want all he wants. But can he achieve what he wants? No, so get peace moving and stop wasting money and lives.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:47 pm to lake chuck fan
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Not trying to be a smart arse, but that is glaringly obvious. Trump should accept reality, put America first, and walk away.
America's tax dollars and energy have been wasted over Ukraine.
Cut our losses.
frick em all. Don't give a shite anymore. Trump needs to stop dreaming of a Nobel Prize, and let Putin and Zelensky beat each other to death in the middle of the road with Singlesticks
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:48 pm to YouKnowImRight
For as long as there has been war countries have had to cede territory. Should Mexico kept fighting until the US took everything? Reality has to set in. Crimea is a lost cause. Make the best terms you can and stop the killing.
Zelenskyy takes us right up to the deal then keeps backing away. He isn’t doing his people any favors. Putin is also playing games.
If these clowns can’t make peace let them destroy each other. Eventually Russia would win but what they get won’t be worth the cost they have paid.
Zelenskyy takes us right up to the deal then keeps backing away. He isn’t doing his people any favors. Putin is also playing games.
If these clowns can’t make peace let them destroy each other. Eventually Russia would win but what they get won’t be worth the cost they have paid.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:49 pm to aubie101
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But can he achieve what he wants? No, so get peace moving and stop wasting money and lives.
Would give up your country so easily?
The Vietnamese didn't.
Nor did the Afghans
It's awfully easy for you to say they should just submit to foreign rule. It comes off as a bit hypocritical.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:11 pm to Paytonisablowhard
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What does Zelensky want?
He wants the country who invaded him and is openly slaughtering his people to leave it and never come back.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:34 pm to Harry Boutte
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Would give up your country so easily? The Vietnamese didn't. Nor did the Afghans It's awfully easy for you to say they should just submit to foreign rule. It comes off as a bit hypocritical.
Then Ukraine should go all in and draft 16 year olds. But leave my tax dollars at home. Not my or a USA fight.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:49 pm to Zach
Na. He's going to Egypt. They recently got a nice estate for his mother.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:51 pm to John Barron
Zelensky needs the Gadhafi treatment
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:53 pm to John Barron
The idea he would get Crimea back just shows how much of a clown show this is the should be happy to get half the coast he has lost since this globohomo war started under biden.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:01 pm to OysterPoBoy
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It’s obvious that Zelensky is being paid by the military industrial complex. He has sold his soul for unforeseen wealth. He doesn’t care about his people.
My Dad was a missionary in Ukraine. What infuriates me the most is that those people have been used as cannon fodder for military industrial complex profit.
The pictures of those great Christian people are in photo albums in my home. There's no telling how many of those precious people have been raped and murdered.
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