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re: Donald Trump is deeply unpopular

Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:14 am to
Remember Just a few years ago when "low 50's" was considered wildly popular? What happened?
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:15 am to
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I wouldn’t put a ton of stock in that. I mean Ted Cruz won by 2.5% which is well below what I imagine GOP expectations in Texas are.


Felxing on Beto losing while spending like $27 per vote lol
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:15 am to
His latest Gallup job approval numbers:

38% approve
56% disapprove

His election was a Russia-aided anomaly, and yet this board thinks they're a majority opinion.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:15 am to
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His election was a Russia-aided anomaly


Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:16 am to
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Missouri, Indiana, and North Dakota are all safe red seats where incumbent Dems beat really bad GOP candidates in 2012.

Cute analysis. Missouri and Indiana were considered toss ups by the outstanding pollsters and prognosticators. Nate Bronze even had Indiana lean Dem.
Posted by BigJim
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:16 am to
So let's take these in a logical order.

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-The polling numbers were validated by a blue wave in the midterm election where the democrats won 40 seats in the house and won by ~7.5% in the popular vote.


IF they get to 40 seats it will still be below what most historic models predicted. So I guess I below average wave?

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His approval/disapproval is in the low 40s/ low 50s for almost the entirety of his presidency.


Which is about where most presidents (absent a war or some other major event) are around the midterm. Again nothing to see here. Now Trump did start off lower than a lot of presidents, but that is irrelevant at this point.

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- The midterm turnout was sky-high. Democrats won ~60.5 million votes in the midterm compared to Trump’s 63 million in the 2016 general. For reference, the GOP picked up 63 seats in 2010 on 44.8 million votes and with a ~5.5% margin. However, GOP turnout was also high preventing this from being a totally unprecedented bloodbath.


You did a pretty good job countering your own argument, so I will leave this one alone.

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Something something electoral college

This is really outside your topic. But I know it drives coastal liberal elites nuts knowing they can't just ignore the rest of the country. It's worth it for that alone.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:17 am to
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Rex


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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing it is still a foolish thing.


Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:17 am to
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Missouri and Indiana were considered toss ups by the outstanding pollsters and prognosticators. Nate Bronze even had Indiana lean Dem.

How does that dispute the point?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:17 am to
And you think Trump won't pounce on someone like Kamala Harris for comparing ICE to the KKK? Trump will have plenty of ammo to go after whatever moonbat the democrats nominate.
Posted by hogminer
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:18 am to
Muh popular vote
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:18 am to
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I'd say he is very polarizing and passion-stirring. Not so much more or less approved / disapproved as compared to other recent POTUSes


Around 1% behind Obama in approval, about 3% behind him in disapproval. Trump found his floor earlier, but has been there for a long time whereas Obama’s decline was more gradual.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:19 am to
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His latest Gallup job approval numbers: 38% approve 56% disapprove


How much does it pain you that Trunps economy is killing it?
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 10:19 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:19 am to
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Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:20 am to
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You can bet that Trump will lose the popular vote in 2020...


...and people like you will sky scream to amend to Constitution to eliminate the Electoral College.
Posted by Music_City_Tiger
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:21 am to
Trump is 3 points up on Obama on this same day in 2010 in the Rasmussen daily presidential tracking poll.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:21 am to
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You did a pretty good job countering your own argument, so I will leave this one alone.


Ever consider that I included it to make my argument more nuanced? Yes Donald Trump is despised by a majority of Americans, but he also got his base out to vote in the midterms.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:21 am to
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How much does it pain you that Trunps economy is killing it?

It's Obama's economy.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:22 am to
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Trump is 3 points up on Obama on this same day in 2010 on the Rasmussen daily presidential tracking poll.


Yeah, but Rasmussen is not a very good poll. I used 538s aggregate polling.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:22 am to
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It's Obama's economy.

Sure it is Barack.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:22 am to
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And you think Trump won't pounce on someone like Kamala Harris for comparing ICE to the KKK?
The way Trump treats women is worse than Harris’ comment (also she didn’t compare ICE to KKK). Also, Hillary has more dirt and carries more of a burden of a trust issue than Harris.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 10:23 am
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