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re: Doesn't it strike you as awfully coincidental? (Science vs Religious Belief)
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:32 am to Revelator
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:32 am to Revelator
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Do you find it coincidental that some of the greatest scientist to ever live historically were believers?
No. Science cannot disprove the existence of God.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:33 am to Powerman
Science isn't really about proving things right, but about proving things are wrong until you eliminate all other reasonable choices. Assumed science has been wrong a lot so I'm a skeptic of most things people say because the world is not that simple. And people who want to simplify things into absolutes do so for laziness.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:35 am to Meauxjeaux
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2- the more science evolves, the more it confirms the Bible
Really? Confirms the bible or your interpretation of the bible?
How has science affirmed the literal parting of the Red Sea?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:35 am to AUbused
A lot of stereotyping and bigotry in that OP. Congrats on arguing against a caricature.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:36 am to Powerman
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Because people who don't believe in evolution are extremely stupid and deserve to be ridiculed.
Maybe some folks don't trust people they don't know or have never met to make up their minds for them?
I'm not one but I do understand SOME of these folks and its not stupidity.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:38 am to AUbused
What I find striking is the narcissism of man to think that all can be scientifically proven? If you don't see Gods work in the creation of the complexities of a child's hand then I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully God will show you at some point in life.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:38 am to AUbused
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Do you have anything you can link for this?
Buddy, if you are REALLY SERIOUS about understanding the Principles behind Science and Religion...then you need to read "The Holographic Universe". Footnoted out the wazoo. Period.
There may be more timely books out there since it was written around '90...but it is definitive. I think everybody in the Science Community just backed off, until more evidence comes in. Quite ironic, given that they CHOOSE to discount the proven evidence they've got. I suspect they realize that their own (subjective) observation, will shape any evidence. Dog chases tail.
Good luck friend.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:38 am to C
I believe in a creator but I also believe in evolution. Suppose that makes be both an heretic and stupid.
At least by the standards of the denizens of the poli board when describing people who disagree with them.
At least by the standards of the denizens of the poli board when describing people who disagree with them.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:39 am to AUbused
I think you are confusing people's distrust for government, politicians and lifelong bureaucrats for distrust of science.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:39 am to Jay Quest
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I would suspect there are many people in this world with IQ's that dwarf your own who believe in a creator.
Sure. But they probably don't deny evolution. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:39 am to AUbused
I find it funny that anti-religious people ignore the fact the most sceintific discoveries were made by religious people.
Big Bang theory? A Catholic priest - ridiculed at the time because the "scientific" community at the time claimed he was trying to inject God ("let there be light") into the debate. BOOM
Evolution? - Ever heard of Mendel's genetic discoveries? Don't look now!
There are 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuits - you know why?
Oh and by the way. Where do you think the University system responsible for so many discoveries came from? Yep, Catholic churches.
Ever hear: "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth." - Pope John Paul II
quote:Do you realize it was a religious person and the church who funded the exploration to disprove flat earth once and for all?
Flat-earth was the same thing.
Big Bang theory? A Catholic priest - ridiculed at the time because the "scientific" community at the time claimed he was trying to inject God ("let there be light") into the debate. BOOM
Evolution? - Ever heard of Mendel's genetic discoveries? Don't look now!
There are 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuits - you know why?
Oh and by the way. Where do you think the University system responsible for so many discoveries came from? Yep, Catholic churches.
Ever hear: "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth." - Pope John Paul II
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:41 am to Taxing Authority
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A lot of stereotyping and bigotry in that OP. Congrats on arguing against a caricature.
E.g. Im offended by math, statistics, and a reasoned post because of my religious bias.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:43 am to Revelator
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Do you find it coincidental that some of the greatest scientist to ever live historically were believers?
Examples? Anyone pre-Darwin doesn't count.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:43 am to AUbused
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Im offended by math, statistics, and a reasoned post because of my religious bias.
I'm offended by bureaucrats, politicians and government. I am offended by your messengers of "science".
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:47 am to AUbused
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No. Science cannot disprove the existence of God.
That's not what I meant. You seem to imply that science and religion are incompatible And I'm telling you that at one time, scientists were almost exclusively believers.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:48 am to Powerman
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they probably don't deny evolution
What is your belief in evolution based on vs their denial? Do you believe in evolution becuase you've studied it and examined the relavent alternatives or is it just more convenient?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:49 am to C
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What is your belief in evolution based on vs their denial? Do you believe in evolution becuase you've studied it and examined the relavent alternatives or is it just more convenient?
Most of the elites' beliefs are what everyone is saying on the Cocktail Circuit.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:49 am to Boom Angry
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Examples? Anyone pre-Darwin doesn't count.
Albert Einstein didn't profess a belief in a personal God but he did truly belive all that he observed came from a creator.
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"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Albert was sorta smart.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:50 am to AUbused
Maybe OP should have defined "science" and "religious."
quote:Many inventors claim their inspiration came from God. Is op saying God couldn't have possibly given the ideas of these products of science?
the product of science
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:51 am to AUbused
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How has science affirmed the literal parting of the Red Sea?
Why would a God that created all things and would certainly understand scientific principles better that you, need to use a method of parting the Red Sea that is understandable or explainable to modern scientists? Is it possible that he used a technique that hasn't even been discovered yet?
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