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re: Does the Federal Reserve have objective tools to raise and lower rates?

Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:31 pm to
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The last thing the Fed wants is debt paid off. Debt is how they enslave countries and control them.



I would like to see anyone argue this fact.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:33 pm to
Taylor Rule/Taylor Principle, and the ever vague, "economists dashboard".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:34 pm to
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The offical inflation target rate is 2%.

Is that what you were asking?




Over the last 12 months the CPI has risen 2.5%. Most of that rise was due to energy prices. Energy prices have been decreasing with pressure from additional oil supply and adjustments due to seasonal changes.

Will the decrease in energy be enough to offset the Fed from raising rates in the near term?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118711 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Taylor Rule/Taylor Principle




If the Federal Reserve follows this, I believe it lends more credibility and transparency to the institution.

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and the ever vague, "economists dashboard".




So it's the Taylor Rule and...and whatever they decide to do.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 4:48 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Will the decrease in energy be enough to offset the Fed from raising rates in the near term?

Here is the explanation of how the Fed's policy makers look at inflation in their rate decision making process.

Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80192 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:46 pm to
I have a feeling this thread was not looking for the actual answer
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:48 pm to
Booked-marked for later.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:49 pm to
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The last thing the Fed wants is debt paid off. Debt is how they enslave countries and control them.
Could you please explain how the Fed keeps countries in debt? Thanks.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:53 pm to
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I have a feeling this thread was not looking for the actual answer
Nah, Gumbo is usually pretty level headed. He's not one of the usual suspects who only asks gotcha' questions.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:55 pm to
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If the Federal Reserve follows this, I believe it lends more credibility and transparency to the institution.


True, but you get modified Taylor Rules, and arguments about the coefficient in front of the inflation and employment portion. Should it be 50/50? Why should employment be a mandate of the federal reserve to begin with?

I agree that there should be some fixed guideline, but the more control the government has, the worse things seem to be.

The current "Taylor Rule Prescription", according to the Atlanta Fed, would be over 4%.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Over the last 12 months the CPI has risen 2.5%. Most of that rise was due to energy prices. Energy prices have been decreasing with pressure from additional oil supply and adjustments due to seasonal changes.


I think CPI is antiquated. I'm not sure what would be a great replacement, but it just feels incomplete.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:13 pm to
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I think CPI is antiquated. I'm not sure what would be a great replacement, but it just feels incomplete.
The Fed FOMC agrees with you.

Read the one page description I linked to a few posts above on the various inflation readings the Fed uses to base its rate decisions on.....
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11080 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:22 pm to
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Could you please explain how the Fed keeps countries in debt?


Russian is right here. However they are compelled to keep rates low because of the massive debt loads the politicians have handed us. They can't raise rates because we wouldn't be able to sustain the levels of government spending with the interest charges we would be paying. We're paying $330billion right now
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123826 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Here is the explanation of how the Fed's policy makers look at inflation in their rate decision making process.

Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
How the heck does a response like this get a DV?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Will the decrease in energy be enough to offset the Fed from raising rates in the near term?
My guess is the Fed will raise the overnight Fed funds target rate by another .25% when the FOMC meets next week.

If Pres Trump hadn't gone all Ninja-Ratemeister on the Fed the last month or so I personally believe the Fed would NOT have raised rates this month.

But now they almost have to raise rates so as not to look like they bowed to his political pressure. (And maybe they won't raise rates and not care who thinks they bowed to political pressure.)

My hope is the Fed will include wording in their press release following their decision to raise rates that says something to the effect of "we believe we have now achieved a rate-neutral environment for the foreseeable future."

That would be the indication the Fed will be slow to raise rates in the future thereby giving itself time to assess the economic slowdown almost everyone is now predicting, including the 2-year to 5-year yield curve.

The stock market will react positively to that wording.........for a day or so.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:41 pm to
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How the heck does a response like this get a DV?
No worries, NC_. I have a down vote stalker who follows me from board to board. I know who he is.

He's harmless.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 6:00 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:10 pm to
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I guess he was just lucky or it was blatant politics?


I wouldn’t exactly call Obama lucky for inheriting the worst economic situation since the Great Depression
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6475 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:09 am to
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Could you please explain how the Fed keeps countries in debt? Thanks.


It starts with charging countries interest to print their own money. Every dollar printed already has debt attached. Then, fractional reserve lending allows banks to lend money (create debt) they don't actually have. By having $1 million, you can create $9 million in debt. Debt will continually increase faster than the monetary supply.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:08 am to
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Could you please explain how the Fed keeps countries in debt? Thanks.


It starts with charging countries interest to print their own money.
How does the Fed do that? For example, how does the Fed charge Britain interest for printing the British pound? Thanks.

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Then, fractional reserve lending allows banks to lend money
Reserve for what?
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 1:11 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 5:54 am to
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Does the Federal Reserve have objective tools to raise and lower rates?

Yes.....a wet index finger in the wind
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