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re: Does Newsome officially start his campaign tomorrow night?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:23 pm to Slevin7
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:23 pm to Slevin7
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This is bs
Why is a guy not running debating a guy who is not winning his parties nomination
Because it's a free country, and you're free to bitch about it and not watch.
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:26 pm to riccoar
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Huge gamble for Ron. But he should be able to bury Gavin Newsome.
If Ron's smart, he paints Gavin up and down with the fact he has a vison of turning America into an experiment of Socialism. His track record in California should be the bullets hammered over and over.
There is literally no upside to this debate for supporters of Donald Trump or for Trump's chances in 2024. The only upside is for Newsom and the Democrats, and the "Anybody but Trump" fake Republicans / country club Republicans and for DeSantis himself.
The fact that the RNC is allowing this debate to happen is proof that they are against Trump and that DeSantis is putting his Longshot candidacy ahead of the fact that a strong performance by Newsom could force the vulnerable Biden off the ticket and weaken our chances to save the country in 2024. I hate DeSantis for this.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:32 pm to cbtullis
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Ron isn’t the best debated out there. Should be an interesting evening. On the flip side of he does do well it will give him a boost past Nikki
If Newsom walked out and in his opening remarks stated he’s decided to enter the race, he would immediately be perceived as the marquis figure if the debate, Desantis will be 2nd fiddle. And that’s without actually outperforming Desantis at all.
God forbid they stand next to each other.
This is such a terrible idea (at best).
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:34 pm to cbtullis
What about the filing deadlines that have passed and are coming up real soon? Are they (D)ifferent for Newsome?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:34 pm to SirWinston
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Huge gamble for Ron. But he should be able to bury Gavin Newsome.
If Ron's smart, he paints Gavin up and down with the fact he has a vison of turning America into an experiment of Socialism. His track record in California should be the bullets hammered over and over.
There is literally no upside to this debate for supporters of Donald Trump or for Trump's chances in 2024. The only upside is for Newsom and the Democrats, and the "Anybody but Trump" fake Republicans / country club Republicans and for DeSantis himself.
The fact that the RNC is allowing this debate to happen is proof that they are against Trump and that DeSantis is putting his Longshot candidacy ahead of the fact that a strong performance by Newsom could force the vulnerable Biden off the ticket and weaken our chances to save the country in 2024. I hate DeSantis for this.
Trump is the only Republican candidate who has refused to say he will support any other nominee except himself. He has supporters like Loomer and Catturd who have openly said they will only vote for Trump and then no other Republicans down ballot and no other Republican ever again. Yet to you he is the true Republican.
It's amazing logic.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:38 pm to moneyg
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This is such a terrible idea (at best).
Don’t watch then. You’ve already said that nothing Desantis says or does can “win” the debate.
So this isn’t for you, so kindly don’t watch and don’t comment.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:42 pm to SirWinston
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There is literally no upside to this debate for supporters of Donald Trump or for Trump's chances in 2024. The only upside is for Newsom and the Democrats, and the "Anybody but Trump" fake Republicans / country club Republicans and for DeSantis himself.
I mean, I suppose there are ways that Ron could really hammer what a disaster Newsom has been as governor of California that would help any republican who might face him in a general election.
If he tap dances around that and sticks to more esoteric issues, you will understand what's really up here.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I mean, I suppose there are ways that Ron could really hammer what a disaster Newsom has been as governor of California that would help any republican who might face him in a general election.
You suppose?
So called conservatives have entered absolute clown world.
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If he tap dances around that and sticks to more esoteric issues, you will understand what's really up here.
What's really up here?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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What's really up here?
I'll expound further if that's what happens.
I'm trying to stay as confident as you that he's simply going to hammer on the disaster that is California currently.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I have no idea if he will or not or if he will do well or not because I cannot see the future.
But he is excellent in the type of situation coming up: 1 on 1 settings.
No one does better than him at succinctly recalling facts and figures, and making cogent, arguments while also being aggressive. Its where he shines.
Anyone downplaying this, asking why its happening, or cheering for Newsom is simply not a Conservative and is an enemy of that movement.
But he is excellent in the type of situation coming up: 1 on 1 settings.
No one does better than him at succinctly recalling facts and figures, and making cogent, arguments while also being aggressive. Its where he shines.
Anyone downplaying this, asking why its happening, or cheering for Newsom is simply not a Conservative and is an enemy of that movement.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:49 pm to Slevin7
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Why is a guy not running debating a guy who is not winning his parties nomination
Because the poll leading Republican is too chicken shite to debate.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:50 pm to Fun Bunch
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Anyone downplaying this, asking why its happening, or cheering for Newsom is simply not a Conservative and is an enemy of that movement.
I know. I was trying to sell it to someone who was doing so, brother, and you chose to lash out at me.
I hope he takes the dude out at his kneecaps.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Not only that, the guy supposedly winning "Really likes Gavin Newsom" and "can't say anything bad about him because he has complimented" him multiple times.
We have that vs. a guy trying to beat him in a debate
And the fans of the first guy think Desantis and Newsom are in league.
You literally cannot make it up.
We have that vs. a guy trying to beat him in a debate
And the fans of the first guy think Desantis and Newsom are in league.
You literally cannot make it up.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:55 pm to Slevin7
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Why is a guy not running debating a guy who is not winning his parties nomination
Paul Ryan told Rob it would be a good idea
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:58 pm to jlc05
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Paul Ryan told Rob it would be a good idea
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“In our shared mission to make America great again, I support and endorse our Speaker of the House Paul Ryan,” Trump said, stressing the need for party unity as he read from a set of notes on his podium. “We need unity. We have to win this election. This is truly one of the most important elections in my lifetime.”
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:08 pm to Leto II
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Seriously? Ron's political career is over.
This is silly. Trump will be the nominee this year, but Ron’s career is far from over.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:19 pm to aggressor
Ron is not a good debater, unless you define good debater by English teacher standards. Winning a debate is not the same as being accurate. He's awkward, his facial expressions take more attention than his words. I like him a lot, but wish he would have never moved into the public eye. He's like a running back that has speed and size but no ability to hit the right hole.
Ron parried debating Newsom for quite a while, but now that he's dropping for months in a row he's going to take this hail Mary. Newsom is going to kill Ron, because he's a slick guy.
This is a last hurrah for both guys - Newsom needs to convince enough people to dethrone a sitting president (unbelievably hard to do) and Ron needs to convince people to give him money again (also hard to do).
Ron parried debating Newsom for quite a while, but now that he's dropping for months in a row he's going to take this hail Mary. Newsom is going to kill Ron, because he's a slick guy.
This is a last hurrah for both guys - Newsom needs to convince enough people to dethrone a sitting president (unbelievably hard to do) and Ron needs to convince people to give him money again (also hard to do).
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:22 pm to philter
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but wish he would have never got into the public eye
He's been the most effective conservative governor of most of our lives. His accomplishments are incredibly impressive.
I'm very glad he got into the public eye.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 5:29 pm to Fun Bunch
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Anyone downplaying this, asking why its happening, or cheering for Newsom is simply not a Conservative
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