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Does anyone believe that enough Trump voters in 2016 will vote dem in 2020?

Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:53 am
I just don’t see that happening. I feel like if you voted for Trump the first time chances are you’re voting for him again.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10987 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:55 am to
I think he will get more voters and keep the ones he had. Just on the red side, I have seen a lot of folks that sat home in 2016 because they just did not like Trump and they have now come around seeing what he has accomplished.

The problem he will have is when Biden gets a minority running mate. I really believe a lot of minorities stayed home in 2016 because they just could not get behind Hiliary.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:55 am to
There is a 0% chance Democrats have won over any Trump supporters from 2016.

Remember, Trump didn't really win. He colluded with Russia to hijack the election.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:56 am to
I actually see more Dems voting for Trump because of what he has done with their pocketbooks.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:56 am to
It’s about enthusiasm as always
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:57 am to
Very few if any that voted for Trump in 2016 will vote Dem in 2020...
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37492 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:57 am to
I don’t understand what would cause an on the fence trump voter from 2016 to switch. What alternatives have been presented? What candidate is an improvement? What, policy wise, do they want done differently?
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:58 am to
No but more dem voters will vote dem this time

Wouldnt surprise me with another 20% additional turnout.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 7:59 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 7:59 am to
It will all depend on turnout. The margins will be razor-thin again.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41584 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:10 am to
Yep I 100% see the turnout being increased on the democrat side. There will be serious allegations of fraud on both sides in multiple states due to how razor thin the margins will be.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2795 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:12 am to
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No but more dem voters will vote dem this time
This is what I’m worried about. Don’t underestimate the visceral hate for DJT by dems. The anti Trump attacks by the majority of the press will be vicious. I hope I’m wrong but I can see an unprecedented turnout by the never Trumpers.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37492 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:13 am to
Do you not see the turn out increasing on the R said too though?
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11580 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:16 am to
I think DEMs in places like Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were complacent in 2016. They just knew Hillary had it in the bag next to her bottle of hot sauce. So, turnout for them will be heavier in swing states. I think Trump has also won over new voters, so I expect that it will be a wash and he Trump wins again.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:19 am to
Trump could easily match any increased turnout on the Democrats' side though. Remember, in 2016 it was widely believed that Hillary had it in the bag, thus for a sure number of would-have-been Trump voters they blew off voting, was likely thought to be a waste of time. Those voters will make the trip this time.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:22 am to
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I actually see more Dems voting for Trump because of what he has done with their pocketbooks.



You'd think that would be reflected in his job approval ratings, but it's not. The man hasn't gotten over 50% in 3 years of being president. That doesn't bode well for someone wanting to run for a second term.

And speaking of pocketbooks, mine has been on a steady increase since 2010 - more steady from 2012-2016, more volatile since 2016, but the trend hasn't changed significantly from one president to the next. I'm just not sure a lot of people see their finances improving that much more overall under Trump than Obama to swing very many voters over to Trump.

I think he may pick up more voters that would rather stay with the status quo than risk the unknown of what a new president might bring, more than voters swing to him because their finances are that much better.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:25 am to
Overall the economy is up, but the more important question should be focused on jobs, wages, and opportunities in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

This is where Trump really flourished to win in 2016. Those states trusted that a Trump presidency would benefit them in their pocketbooks.

Did it? If so, he’ll retain those states.

He needs to ensure he snags Florida, which is one reason why Biden is a tougher opponent than Sanders. No way Sanders competes in Florida with his Castro support and the number of Latinos being Cuban.

Biden has more of a “blue collar” allure to him, so Trump will need to campaign on what he’s done for the Midwest if he wants to keep the voters that switched those states to red.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12305 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:26 am to
Trump will absolutely get more voters this time around. There were a lot of people on the fence about him in 2016. I just don't see any Dem candidates coming close to him. Sanders is really the only hope with Biden a distant second only because there's so many socialists in this country now; however, it will still be a landslide for Trump especially since the Dems refuse to let Bernie be the rep.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41584 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:29 am to
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Biden has more of a “blue collar” allure to him, so Trump will need to campaign on what he’s done for the Midwest if he wants to keep the voters that switched those states to red.

This is what I’ve said for a year here but have been downvoted to hell and back and told how stupid I was. Biden 100% appeals to blue collar workers and is the one reason why he is the only candidate that can beat Trump. Trump will have his work cut out for him, for sure.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16370 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:30 am to
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, I have seen a lot of folks that sat home in 2016 because they just did not like Trump and they have now come around seeing what he has accomplished.

I think you will also see a lot of people that voted 3rd party bc they didn't like Trump or Clinton, will vote Trump this time around.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20377 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:32 am to
Trump will win the popular vote this time around, and wipe the floor with the Dims on the electoral votes. After 3 1/2 years, the Dims still haven't figured it out, and I doubt they will before November.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 8:33 am
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