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re: Does anyone believe Charlie kirk was shot with a 30.06?

Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125582 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Idk


“I don’t know anything. But I’m sure what I’m being told is wrong. I don’t have an alternate cohesive explanation. But I love conspiracy theories and I’m kind of a dumbass.”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Except when it doesnt.


Except it does.


No. Thousands of deer have been shot with high velocity rounds, even 30-06 with no exit wound.


You dont even know what type of projectile was used, and have already made up your mind.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Once again this is an opinion. A person doesn’t need to hunt to know more about the characteristics of the 30.06 caliber. I would think there are people who don’t hunt that no more about that caliber and the damage it will do than any “country boy” that hunts. But that is just my opinion.


And you'd be wrong. I pick the ammo, pull the trigger and skin the deer. I see all of the damage every time. Not just my deer but my dad's, brothers, nephews and friends. We all use multiple calibers and bullets. I've been hunting for 40 years.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:31 pm to
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. Thousands of deer have been shot with high velocity rounds, even 30-06 with no exit wound.



Well I can pull up several videos on YouTube where people have set something similar up and every single time the bullet exits. Find me one where it doesnt. Go look, they're plenty examples.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:32 pm to
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Well I can pull up several videos on YouTube where people have set something similar up and every single time the bullet exits.


Yes, youtube influencers are who I would trust for scientific evidence.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

don’t know anything. But I’m sure what I’m being told is wrong. I don’t have an alternate cohesive explanation. But I love conspiracy theories and I’m kind of a dumbass.”


"I believe everything the cops say cause they're the good guys. Fbi would never lie. Political assassination are always straightforward. I've also never killed the food for my family"
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
Cincinnati
Member since Nov 2015
1392 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:36 pm to
you will come to know when the bullet hits the bone
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:37 pm to
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youtube influencers are who I would trust for scientific evidence.


You set it up however you see fit if you don't believe those guys. 150 out with a 30.06 against whatever you think is the strength equivalent of the human neck. It will go through every time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:39 pm to
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You set it up however you see fit if you don't believe those guys


I dont.

Tyler Robinson shot Charlie, you can twist it however you want and you'll still be wrong
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:40 pm to
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Tyler Robinson shot Charlie,


With what?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:41 pm to
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With what?


A bullet, fired from a rifle.

Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23775 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:43 pm to
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Go buy or borrow a 30.06 and shoot something with it. Then you'll know he wasn't.


So you’re a ballistics expert? At 200 yards a 150 gr 30-06 has around 1800 ft lbs of energy at 2400 fps. According to reports the bullet entered his neck and shattered several vertebrae in his neck which would be consistent. There was reports from people there that there was massive amounts of blood loss at the scene.
Posted by contraryman
Earth
Member since Dec 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:44 pm to
Hey, I get that you consider yourself an expert in everything about hunting deer. And that includes the damage of 30.06 will do to a deer, and all of those other calibers your daddy hunts with. However, unless you were the attending physician and inspected the body personally, you can’t say with 100% certainty what happened. I don’t care how many deer you skinned, cleaned and shot. And I understand your skepticism because you really want to believe what you’re saying is 100% certain. But you can’t be certain. It is your opinion.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1738 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:14 pm to
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And you'd be wrong. I pick the ammo, pull the trigger and skin the deer. I see all of the damage every time. Not just my deer but my dad's, brothers, nephews and friends. We all use multiple calibers and bullets. I've been hunting for 40 years.


I've hunted deer for over 50 years. Used a 30-06 (or a 270 Winchester) for almost all those years. I field dressed skinned, and processed many dozens of my own deer, and hundreds of other people's deer (that hunted in our club). Almost everyone hunted with a 30-06 exclusively. It was not uncommon for there to be no blood trail due to the bullet fragmenting, and not exiting. Sometimes part of the bullet almost made it out, and sometimes it never escaped the body cavity.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:22 pm to
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There was reports from people there that there was massive amounts of blood loss at the scene.
This is consistent with an EXIT wound.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28168 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Well I can pull up several videos on YouTube where people have set something similar up and every single time the bullet exits. Find me one where it doesnt. Go look, they're plenty examples.


Ballistics gel doesn’t act the same as flesh and bone.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36020 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 9:15 pm to
It was not a particularly hard shot with a 30-06....maybe 200 -250 yards. Plus the shot was a ricochet off of some chest armor, so that took away some energy. Neck has a lot of muscle that can slow up an already "compromised" shot. I'm no expert, but I've used a 30-06 more than handful of times.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3666 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 9:29 pm to
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It means they're lying


Again what difference does it make? The guy was murdered. Please elaborate why it’s so important.
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