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re: Documentarian Ken Burns is pro "democratic socialist" and Mamdani

Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:02 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:02 am to
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What’s true is some young men risked it all to give you this country. Staying loyal to the crown wasn’t the risk.

Well after a certain point it was 100% clear to both sides that the moment anyone openly pledged to the revolution or the king that it would almost certainly mean that as soon as the other side took over an area they would be forced out.

This happened from Maine to Georgia and it was at times in the form of massacres rather than subtle requests.

In Georgia and SC for example later in the conflict the two sides were basically purging the land of their enemies in the form of raids where many civilians died.

Whatever we think now the Revolution was an absolutely brutal near total war and there was very little that was gentlemanly and dignified as we were sometimes conditioned to believe growing up.
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1126 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:06 am to
Hes an androgynous little pussy who tries to make absolutely everything about black people.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117545 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:15 am to
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Making slavery or anything else the main story besides the founding of the greatest country in world history incorrectly skews the viewers perception of reality.

True, the Albion book I'm reading deals mostly with 1600-1750. The vast majority of colonists owned just enough land for their family to farm plus a hired hand. Only the large land owners owned slaves and had to also hire poor whites as hired hands. Slavery expanded after the revolution in the South where plantations were much larger than in the original colonies.
The main contribution of Indians was names. The colonists used Indian names for rivers, plants and some of the towns. The conflicts with Indians mostly came with westward expansion long after 1776.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37482 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:01 am to
This is true in respect to slavery and its expansion. After the War, Americans began to pour into formerly Indian lands displacing them. Jefferson very much wanted to start forcing Indians west of the Mississippi as early as the Revutionary War when the Cherokee essentially sided with the British....but did so before there was a sizeable British presence to back them.

The issue of slavery was one of many that was debated during the Revolution. Was it a primary issue, no, but it was an issue that was not lost on many of the principals involved. But it was subordinate in nature, especially when the news reached the colonies that a slave revolt had taken place in Jamaica in 1776 when the British dispatched half of the garrison to the North American colonies to fight.

Each side used the slaves as pawns in the game. The British and the Americans. If either side won there was no guarantee of any real emancipation of the whole

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21592 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:09 am to
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Watch the first 3 minutes and look at the donors who funded the film.


Jews and a Bank. I laughed.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35310 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:13 am to
Yes. He’s a known propagandist.
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