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Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
No. Defense spending should be increased, at least 10% of our budget
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:53 pm to Parmen
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Defense spending should be increased, at least 10% of our budget
That's all well and good if you define what you think the budget ought to be.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:54 pm to DavidTheGnome
I support a 50% cut in entitlement spending
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
I have no problem with cuts as long as we maintain two things: 1) We do not reduce how much we spend per soldier. 2) We do not jeopardize our ability to wage war. Cut out anything that doesn’t help maintain and advance an effective fighting force.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:56 pm to HempHead
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That's all well and good if you define what you think the budget ought to be.
I mean 10% of the US governments total spending should be on military, so double what we currently pay. Cut funding to Dept of Education, HUD, etc
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:58 pm to Parmen
I support massive cuts beginning in 2021.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:58 pm to Parmen
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I mean 10% of the US governments total spending should be on military, so double what we currently pay. Cut funding to Dept of Education, HUD, etc
DoE (either one of them) and HUD are a piss in the bucket compared to DoD spending - if you want this to be a reality, then we have to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. That's totally fine with me; I'm just saying that you have to look beyond pissant agencies for that kind of spending.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:59 pm to DavidTheGnome
More than cuts, the military could use some modernization on systems, accounting, and accountability that would save quite a bit of money in the long run.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:09 am to DavidTheGnome
Plenty of waste. Give me an efficient, lean, offensive military power
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:16 am to HempHead
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DoE (either one of them) and HUD are a piss in the bucket compared to DoD spending - if you want this to be a reality, then we have to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. That's totally fine with me; I'm just saying that you have to look beyond pissant agencies for that kind of spending.
Well spending needs to rise because as indicated in a thread before, I want the military to be manning the Trump Wall.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:29 am to DavidTheGnome
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I generally agree with you but not here.
A large robust navy allows us to continue to project power where we need it without that nasty having to actually put boots on the ground.
Further, our navy is badly overstretched right now...which is why you see so many of our ships running into things lately.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:30 am to DavidTheGnome
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Do you support cuts to military spending?
You do realize that a ton of the modern conveniences you enjoy came from military spending, right?
fricking idiot.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:28 am to DavidTheGnome
Military spending is rising to $700 billion out of a $4 trillion budget. It is not the primary problem
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:27 am to DavidTheGnome
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It seems we’ve passed the defense aspect and it’s just become welfare for the MIC.
Except for all that lethal capability we get.
What do we get from wealth redistribution programs? For that matter, where is the Constitutional support for wealth redistribution programs?
(FTR, I'd be okay with some defense cuts if we literally could cut anything else - but we're incapable, so frick it.)
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:10 am to hedgehog
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Yes. There’s plenty of waste
This....less spending, more investing
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:41 am to asurob1
quote:Ex-squid
asurob1
Yeah, I went there
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:51 am to DavidTheGnome
Yes, I actually would support removing all military personal and equipment from Europe and South Korea, for starters. Saving untold millions. Of course then that money should be removed from the military budget.
I would also , myself, support dismantling the Air Force entirely, there is absolutely nothing in their portfolio that can't be performed by the Navy. Nothing. Now true, you would see the Navy increase its ranks if you did this, but you would eliminate the AF brass as well as combine their logistics with that of the Navy saving money there as well.
If, on the other hand, the argument is "should we cut the military budget and attempt to continue doing everything we are doing now?" The answer is no, that's dumb. That' like saying "lets cut SNAP funds while providing the same level of assistance to the same number of people" It just doesn't make sense
I would also , myself, support dismantling the Air Force entirely, there is absolutely nothing in their portfolio that can't be performed by the Navy. Nothing. Now true, you would see the Navy increase its ranks if you did this, but you would eliminate the AF brass as well as combine their logistics with that of the Navy saving money there as well.
If, on the other hand, the argument is "should we cut the military budget and attempt to continue doing everything we are doing now?" The answer is no, that's dumb. That' like saying "lets cut SNAP funds while providing the same level of assistance to the same number of people" It just doesn't make sense
Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:30 am to DavidTheGnome
Yes, our military has far exceeded is constitutional charter as purely a mechanism for national defense.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:40 am to DavidTheGnome
2/3 of the $4.047 B of spending is to social security, Medicare and Medicaid.
If you are a super-power, and you are going to cut ANY military costs that are ON THE BOOKS, it would be in DoD Overseas Contingency Operations, which costs nearly $100 Ba year.
If you are a super-power, and you are going to cut ANY military costs that are ON THE BOOKS, it would be in DoD Overseas Contingency Operations, which costs nearly $100 Ba year.
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