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re: Do you believe Trump?

Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9323 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:36 am to
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He will have a hard time building consensus just like he did in his first term. I seriously question his ability to get things done.



The reason behind this wasn’t Trumps personality as the girlie ronbots would infer. The reason is because congress are against the America first agenda. That’s no great revelation, but someone has to start a movement against them, whether effective or not. Someone has to have testicals.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:36 am to
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Remember "Russia Collusion"? Twice failed impeachments?


Different issues but Trump was railroaded, no doubt.

Hes still a con man. It just pisses progs off they can't put him in prison
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:37 am to
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Correct, he never tried.

Trumps big success was tariffs, which did nothing but push woke corporations over small business and tax the "populists."





The DeSantis group has become to easy. All of this is BS and this is why your guy is losing. We have not forgotten and the NEVER TRUMPERS/GOPE will never change.




Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22782 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:37 am to
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Different issues but Trump was railroaded, no doubt.


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Hes still a con man. It just pisses progs off they can't put him in prison


True

I'm not so sure the confidential documents thing is railroading.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:38 am to
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Democracy is a government of the people For the people By the people But the people are retarded
Indeed a drawback of universal suffrage.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:40 am to
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Only if you’re a rube
Rubes are right more often than you by quite a lot.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:41 am to
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quote:

He will have a hard time building consensus just like he did in his first term. I seriously question his ability to get things done.
The reason behind this wasn’t Trumps personality as the girlie ronbots would infer. The reason is because congress are against the America first agenda. That’s no great revelation, but someone has to start a movement against them, whether effective or not.
Are the members of Congress “representatives of the people” to any lesser extent than the president? In your view, is there some implicit requirement found in the Constitution that they knuckle under and unquestioningly enact every element of a president’s agenda? Does this mean that every Republican in Congress should simply shut up and vote for all of Biden’s legislation?
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Someone has to have testicals.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 9:49 am
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5771 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:41 am to
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Wrong! Should he get one? Yes. Will he.. YES because at some point, the GOPE will learn either do what you were sent to do or be removed.


You live in fantasy land. There will always be some moderate GOPe types. People like Rand Paul would not get elected in Maine or NY state. Trump has to learn to successfully navigate those waters. My belief is that he never will.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 9:42 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:42 am to
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Democracy is a government of the people



States this as if we are a Democracy when the truth is we are a REPUBLIC

Than has the nerve to say:


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But the people are retarded



Just so you can learn something new today:


A republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. One is more MOB rule.

In a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters. In a "pure democracy," the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority.



We are a REPUBLIC!
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16895 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:42 am to
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AggieHank86


You just have to have testicals, Hank. That's all.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:44 am to
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The promise to end the war is absurd on its face.


And given we now have conclusive proof we have legions of warmongering activist in the Pentagon, I'm willing to give Donald Trump a chance to end this proxy war with Russia. Excuse me, but I don't see anyone pushing any sort of peace plan to end that war?

It was retired General Wesley Clark who confirmed that at one point the Pentagon had a plan to invade five Muslim countries in 7 years. Absolute absurdity. Imagine the American casualties that 'absurd' plan would have generated. Viet Nam X 10?

I'll say it. The people most opposed to another Trump Presidency is an assortment of warmongering UniParty, Nation Building, and Military-Industrial Complex economic oppertunist. They (the Cabal) never forgave Trump for cutting off the money, including the money flowing to fund those gazillion military bases the Pentagon maintained all over the world. War is big business.

War is hell - William Tecumseh Sherman

This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:45 am to
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Jjdoc
A republic is one of many forms of democracy. As is “direct democracy,” which you seem to believe is the only form that democracy can take.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:46 am to
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Now he says the wall got built. What was built was certainly not paid for by Mexico.
Obama care is still in place.
The swamp is alive and well.

Much of the wall was built, and Trump said Mexico would pay for it via trade, not with a big check from Publishers Clearing House. They did.
0bamacare - thank McCain.
Swamp - partially drained. The reason you think he lied, aside from you being a woman who believes things based on what you want to be true, is that the Swamp seems bigger than before. That's not because it grew, but because he lifted the floorboards and we saw the mold was everywhere.

But you get to keep your DeSanctus butt plug either way, so you should just go do that and leave politics to real men and the Ronbots who were ostensibly real men before.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 9:46 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:46 am to
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You just have to have testicals, Hank. That's all.
Testiclear fortetood.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16753 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:46 am to
Doesn’t matter. Voting for Afroman.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22782 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:47 am to
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Are the members of Congress “representatives of the people” to any lesser extent than the president? In your view, is there some implicit requirement found in the constitution that they knuckle under and do with the president wants them to do?

They think Trump will be a King next term.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:49 am to
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Build the wall and Mexico pays


He got 465 miles built without the help of congress.

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Rescind Obamacare


McCaine killed this. However he did get rid of the Obamacare penalty.

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Drain the swamp


This is such an amorphous phrase.

Campaign promises are about the directions you want to take the country and those promises are contingent on wether or not congress will play or not.

For example, Trump was very successful with tax cuts and judicial appointments when congress helped. When congress fought against Trump like trying to save the deep state, Obamacare and more, so it was difficult to get promises fulfilled congress opposed.

Just and FYI the presidency is not a dictatorship.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22782 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:49 am to
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In a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters. In a "pure democracy," the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority.


Too bad we don't have a parliamentary democracy.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39864 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:49 am to
Cult45 doesn’t understand why DeSantis is pushing hard on culture issues. It’s how Youngkin, Kemp, DeWine, etc win in swing states or even blue states. DeSantis stays over the issue that garners the most support and unites the independents and republicans together.

He’s disciplined and tries to not to stray into waters where he’ll lose the independent vote. But because he’s not everyday yelling about stolen elections and ending the war in 24 hours he’s a globalist neocon.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:51 am to
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Trump makes some bold statements even for a politician.

You undercut the whole premise of your thread, with your first sentence
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