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re: Do you believe President Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?

Posted on 5/14/17 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 2:00 pm to
It's Sunday, May 14th and I still have not seen any evidence of the Orange man being a Russian agent.

Unless millions of butt hurt Democrats count as evidence.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:57 am to
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As a somewhat casual and unbiased observer, I just can't understand why the Dems have grabbed ahold of this collusion theory and refuse to let go.

Fine.

If the entire exercise is meaningless, simply ignore it and it will eventually run out of steam and die.

If it's nothing, why are Trump and Trumpists so sensitive about the matter? Methinks the Donald doth protest too much.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:59 am to
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If the entire exercise is meaningless, simply ignore it and it will eventually run out of steam and die.

If it's nothing, why are Trump and Trumpists so sensitive about the matter? Methinks the Donald doth protest too much.


Well that was utter nonsense
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:18 am to
No

Did the Russians meddle in the last election? Yes...did they aid Trump...yes...the margin of victory across the board was such that any small thing had a big impact. Does that excuse Clinton for not being able to beat the shite out of the worst possible idea for president who ever ran? Not at all...but it was a factor. The drummed up outrage over Benhghazi (Key up the "people were killed crowd"...even when most of the people upset over that can't tell you what hemisphere Benhgahzi is in let alone the continent or the country.) Wiki leaks...which Trump himself praised time and again and now we are too believe had no impact on the election....email...the list goes on...if you are naive enough to thinks that all of that outrage was organic you are a fricking idiot, period....


So, did anyone collude with the Russians....I orignally thought not....but when you are working your arse off trying to deny and obstruct the investigation it is becoming more and more obvious something is there...and they know it. I doubt if Trump was aware but he should of been or will be held accountable.

At the very best there is nothing there and Trump and companies actions are merely aiding the opposition...which, lets don't forget, is as strong or stronger in his own party as it is in the democratic party. Flynn, firing comey, tax returns...there are things that Trump and company can do and have done to impact the narrative IF it is indeed all smoke and mirrors and there is no there there.

There is either some there there OR Trump and company are being played like a finely tuned instrument...given the opposition Trump faces from his own party...never mind the left...yall are in for a rough ride...and whining about it comes off as exactly like..."the left is mean......." whine bitch whine...its politics!
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:28 am to
Except we don't even know that the Russian's hacked the dnc. No intelligence community of the us ever examined their servers, event logs, or anything
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:35 am to
quote:

Do you believe President Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?
Not a chance in hell.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38766 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:36 am to
I believe that it is a FACT that Hillary signed off for the Russians to get 25% of US uranium, and that her Husband, her Foundation and many in her inner circle got BIG BUCKS to do it.

If Putin had wanted Trump to win the Election all he had to do was confirm the above. Why should he; he knew he could buy HRC any day of the week.

The *Russians* thing was made up in order to cover for Obama ("wiretapping") employing Government Bureaucracy to "punish his enemies and reward his friends". That is truth. Now whether or not the MSM is successful in pushing that lie and Sessions is stupid enough to give in to Dem demands for a Special Prosecutor like he did with recusing himself...remains to be seen.

Damn the torpedoes...full speed ahead. That is a winning strategy. The Dems have nothing but the fake news MSM.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:42 am to
Nope.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:17 am to
How about we let the investigation play out without blatant interference from trump and his minions. Once we collect and present the facts then, and o my then, can we draw a conclusion.

Until then, everyone is speculating
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:21 am to
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Yes...did they aid Trump..


And Johnson and Stein also but we don't hear anything about collusion towards their campaigns.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:26 am to
It doesn't matter what any of us believe, quite frankly. If there is evidence then there should be an investigation. Let the investigation run its course. Then we all get an answer.

That's how it fricking works. Nobody cares about your "beliefs" because they are completely irrelevant.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:09 am to
quote:

If there is evidence then there should be an investigation.


There is no evidence so...
Posted by SnukaD
Covington, LA
Member since Apr 2016
529 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:13 am to
Of course not. Only unhinged liberals believe that.
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