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re: Do gay people lie more frequently than straight people?

Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:53 pm to
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and how it's qualified by mental health professionals.
For the DSM, politics in the early 1970s.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:56 pm to
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Thanks for your opinion, but I don't wake up and lie to myself...ever.

I suppose if all you've ever eaten is crap sandwiches, then pretty soon it seems seems normal, too.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:57 pm to
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It's not gay behavior. That is anthropomorphizing non humans.


So one male having sex with another male (regardless of species) isn't homosexual behavior? That is by definition homosexual behavior.

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And yet you did with the animal example. How does a straight man get an erection for another man while in prison when it never occurred before?


He wasn't locked up away from females before. Jesus please tell me you don't think that men actually turn gay in prison. It's an example of sexual deprivation and desperation for human touch. They don't have the choice to sleep with women.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:58 pm to
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If someone in this thread thinks I'm directing this towards them...I am. You're gay. Embrace it.





And agreed, fear and self-loathing drives people to do terrible things.

Truth: I actually get more push back from gays when they find out I'm conservative than I ever get from conservatives for being gay.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:00 pm to
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Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:00 pm to
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It's not gay behavior. That is anthropomorphizing non humans.


It’s sexual attraction which is what we are discussing.


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And yet you did with the animal example.


Nope. I never suggested that animal homosexual behavior only occurs because of a lack of opposite sex options. It doesn’t.


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How does a straight man get an erection for another man while in prison when it never occurred before?


How does a straight man get an erection for his own hand?
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:01 pm to
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So one male having sex with another male (regardless of species) isn't homosexual behavior? That is by definition homosexual behavior.
Not in the same sense as people.
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He wasn't locked up away from females before. Jesus please tell me you don't think that men actually turn gay in prison. It's an example of sexual deprivation and desperation for human touch. They don't have the choice to sleep with women.
So, it's a choice. Sexual behavior is mutable. That's my point. Thanks.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:02 pm to
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And? animals develop behaviors due to environment just like we do.


You think environmental factors are consistent among all species of animals in all regions of the world?

Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:04 pm to
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So, it's a choice. Sexual behavior is mutable. That's my point. Thanks.


Sexual behavior is not sexual attraction. You keep missing the subject of the discussion.

An inmate may engage in homosexual behavior while in prison but resume heterosexual life as soon as he is released. That doesn’t mean his sexual attraction ever changed. His genetic predisposition never changed.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:06 pm to
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So, it's a choice. Sexual behavior is mutable. That's my point. Thanks.



I never said sexual behavior isn't a choice. It is most definitely mutable. Sexual attraction, however, is immutable.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:07 pm to
black gay men in general are probably the most dramatic demographic on planet earth
Posted by KeyserSoze999
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:07 pm to
But circumstances change the behavior?


But in no way is that learned


Potato patott toe
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Posted by IllegalPete
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:09 pm to
SJWs lie more frequently.

I don't think gay or straight has anything to do with it.
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:10 pm to
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Do gay people lie more frequently than Uh normal folks?


I'm gonna be honest. I just skimmed the topic, and thought it said "Do gay people pee more frequently than..



Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:13 pm to
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For the DSM, politics in the early 1970s.


The DSM removed homosexuality 46 years ago because of advancements in mental health understanding. Contemporary science doesn't hold it as a disorder. As in most things, our understanding has evolved.

Would you go to your general practitioner for an issue and insist he only use medical research and theory from 50 years ago? No. So why would you for mental health?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:14 pm to
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That doesn’t mean his sexual attraction ever changed
How does one achieve an erection for an unattractive other? I believe sexual attraction is more mutable than most believe. It's more environment than genetics.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:17 pm to
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The DSM removed homosexuality 46 years ago because of advancements
It was politics. I'm not saying it's a mental illness, but I'm telling you it was removed because of a political movement.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:19 pm to
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But circumstances change the behavior?


But in no way is that learned


Potato patott toe


I believe you're confusing sexual behavior with sexual attraction. And yes, behaviors are sometimes affected by circumstances, or environment.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:22 pm to
So you’re saying sexual behavior can’t reorient a person towards sexual attraction?

I don’t think I’m the one that’s confused, but if that helps the feels ...
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