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Do Democrats really want to die on DACA hill?

Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:11 pm
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:11 pm
Not too smart to put illegal aliens ahead of America and it's citizens.

Lest we forget.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32804 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:12 pm to
They don’t know WTF they want to die for other than Not Trump
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:14 pm to
Yes, most Americans are not petty assholes. Let’s see who blinks.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:14 pm to
They are just against anything republicans are for at this point.
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:16 pm to
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Yes, most Americans are not petty assholes. Let’s see who blinks.


Yet, most white Democrats are. Why is that?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33881 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:18 pm to
Are Democrats really going to make Dreamers go back all because of a little wall funding?

For shame, Dems
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:22 pm to
You mean the time, that they formed a bipartisan consensus with Republicans on immigration, but the President refused the plan just on the heels of saying "I’ll sign whatever bill they send me"

This is all because Trump is on a quixotic quest to get the wall
If the government shuts down, with repubs in control of the WH, and both chambers of congress, and a bipartisan deal on the very topic precluding a CR and the president refused, there's no way this will get laid on the Dems (well outside of safespaces like the Poli board)




Sources for the quotation:

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-dreamers-20180109-story.html

https://dailyrushbo.com/rush-trump-attempting-to-elevate-himself-above-the-sausage-making-in-congress/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/trump-says-hell-sign-daca-pursue-comprehensive-immigration-reform.html

https://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1801/09/cnr.05.html
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:23 pm to
its, not it's
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5640 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:23 pm to
Define “die”? What exactly do you think is at stake for the Dems in this situation?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:28 pm to
Dems are playing with house money, Republicans don’t understand that.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48401 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:30 pm to
House money? Do tell.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:30 pm to
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They are just against anything republicans are for at this point.


A lot of Republicans support letting the DACA kids stay.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73813 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Dems are playing with house money


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Dems are playing with house money, Republicans don’t understand that.




horse shite
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5640 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:33 pm to
So, what’s at stake then?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:33 pm to
Can they vote?

This isn’t that hard
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:35 pm to
It's one thing to support immigrants in addition to citizens but they are willing to support immigrants at the expense of citizens. If they had media that would call them out, this would kill their election chances.
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Define “die”? What exactly do you think is at stake for the Dems in this situation?


Democrats could lose the Rust Belt white middle class voter for a generation. This is the area that lost and continues to lose the most manufacturing jobs.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:47 pm to
Muslims, Illegals, and Transgenders.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5640 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:17 pm to
So you think they’ll lose dem voters by obstructing republicans? Unlikely, very unlikely. In fact, I’d argue recent history shows just the opposite.

My point is, there’s nothing really at stake for Dems. Much like how republicans obstructed Obama’s agenda every chance they got, and they gained votes for it, when Dems were sure republicans would flee their party out of frustration with their leadership.

Didn’t happen then, not happening this time.
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