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re: DNC Chair Candidate Keith Ellison Once Called For Separate Country for Black Ame

Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294426 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
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But you paid for the Japanese internment reparations


Japanese internment was done directly by the US government.
Posted by 13yearvet
Member since Oct 2016
98 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:39 pm to
AKA the taxpayers
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:40 pm to
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Why are white men like myself so opposed to paying back people that we oppressed, terrorized and murdered for years?


My white Irish ancestors didn't oppress shite. Modern middle class educated black men have no justification for reparations.
Posted by 13yearvet
Member since Oct 2016
98 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:40 pm to
I never said white people needed to shell out their own money from their pockets.

The US govt owns black people and their debt is piling. They've owed them since1965
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294426 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:41 pm to
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Is it there fault that our ancestors were deplorable and denied them rights and a way of life at every time? We can't just say NO to rectifying wrongs.


It's "their"

We can't rectify wrongs. You can symbolically give token guilt offerings. If that would make you feel better, you're free to donate at any time.

If reparations would make people like you STFU, I'm all for a one time payment of 10k or something along those lines. As for a separate homeland for those who want to go, hell yes.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69220 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:41 pm to
How about this:
We extend the boot of Louisiana to the Alabama border and give Vicksburg and Natchez to Louisiana. We give African Americans the rest of Mississippi with Oxford as a safe space for the whites.

Think they would take that deal?
Posted by 13yearvet
Member since Oct 2016
98 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:42 pm to
In a superficial way yes. We screwed their ancestors over at every turn and we owe it to someone. ITS Their inheritance and It should go to their families
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294426 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:44 pm to
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ITS Their inheritance and It should go to their families
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24943 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:44 pm to
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The US govt owns black people and their debt is piling. They've owed them since1965



I'm sure the Nordic tribes we're lining up to pay reparations to the Saxons
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:45 pm to
You smell like a heather alter that got tired of being called out as heather.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:46 pm to
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But you paid for the Japanese internment reparations. Did you cry wolf then? Bet you weren't there for it.


Weren't the actual surviving victims paid?

Not the same thing as paying non-victims
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:48 pm to
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The US govt owns black people and their debt is piling. They've owed them since1965



bullshite. A better case can be made that the Democratic Party owns black people and has owed them since 1965
Posted by 13yearvet
Member since Oct 2016
98 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:49 pm to
I get that but their families are owed something at least. this is America and we do things RIGHT here. Germany paid Jews...do we really want to get something wrong that they got right ?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:10 pm to
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I get that but their families are owed something at least. this is America and we do things RIGHT here. Germany paid Jews...do we really want to get something wrong that they got right ?


Are they owed more than the freedoms they now enjoy that their ancestors sacrificed for? If we're sticking to only families of people brought over from Africa to be slaves (please describe the method for doing this while you're at it), can you honestly say they are not better off because of their ancestors' sacrifice? We could offer one way tickets to the African nation of their choosing. Would that be acceptable as reparations? It would more than make them whole.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:49 pm to
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I never said white people needed to shell out their own money from their pockets.

The US govt owns black people and their debt is piling. They've owed them since1965


Now I know you are a God damned idiot. Who the frick do you think pays most of the taxes that the govt would use to pay "reparations"?

This thread is about this anti-Semitic a-hole. Somehow the dems can always find the worst among them to lead them.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124911 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:17 pm to
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Why are white men like myself so opposed to paying back people that we oppressed, terrorized and murdered for years?


All of those people are dead.
And all of the people who did it are dead.
That seems like a pretty clear obstacle.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112066 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:11 pm to
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We screwed their ancestors over at every turn and we owe it to someone. ITS Their inheritance and It should go to their families


What is this "we" shite?

And, as soon as blacks are willing to repay the inflation adjusted value of:

Food
Clothing
Housing
Healthcare
Initial capital investment
Maintenance while unproductive (very young or very old)

And

The lost value of the 600k that died during the war that freed their ancestors

Plus

The trillions of dollars pissed away in welfare programs in the last 50 years

we can begin a fricking discussion about reparations.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:15 pm to
That which has been paid in blood cannot be paid in gold.

Asking for reparations is a patent insult to the Union deaths and injuries in the civil war.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20224 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:21 pm to
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They can have Mississippi and Alabama.

no SEC states except for maybe Missouri. they never really were down for the cause.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14958 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:51 pm to
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Ellison’s writings while a student at the University of Minnesota law school



In 1990. I am willing to hear his explanation on how he has evolved since writing for a school paper.

And Republicans should not dismiss him so easily. Being blinded by petty stuff like this (He's a muslim! He's black!) is intellectually lazy and the public won't stand for it. Lest you forget 2 term president Barrack Obama.

What are his CURRENT positions and actions? Focus on that.
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