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re: DJT - “I don’t want to drive housing prices down. I want to drive housing prices up.”
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:51 pm to RollTide4547
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:51 pm to RollTide4547
quote:
If they can't afford a home, they are not doing most everything right now are they.
Hypothetically, what would the average cost of a 2 bed 1 bath starter home have to get to for your average worker "doing everything right" to not be able to afford a house until they are in their 40s and infertile?
I mean, at some point math has to take over and there's no more hours to work or determination to put forth and housing prices are such that houses are only for those who already have one or multiple, or who's parents have equity in a house and money, right?
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:52 pm to Powerman
quote:Then you'd be full of shite. I started at 3.35 an hour. After taxes I had about 2.25 left. Gas was $1 a gallon. I could buy 2 1/4 gallons of gas for 1 hours work. Today, the same McDonalds has a sign "hiring $15 an hour". Young person today would have $10 after taxes and gas is 2.34. The same hours work today would buy 4 1/4 gallons of gas. A used beater car in the 80s would have cost around $1500 (670 hours work). Today you can used beater for around $4500 (450 hours work)...
Easy to say when you lived in the easy mode era
I'm 100% certain that you would face more hurdles today than when you grew up
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:54 pm to AllbyMyRelf
it is a goal that was made much harder by government policies
I may be responding to you without fully understanding your position(s) but taking them only in the context of where I last left the conversation and relative to the original topic of the OP.
If so, I apologize.
I still don't want you to whine. I'm glad you have an achievable goal and I hope you make a good plan and reach it.
It appears you realize it is an achievalbe goal. I recommend you don't let "issues" stand in your way.
good luck
I may be responding to you without fully understanding your position(s) but taking them only in the context of where I last left the conversation and relative to the original topic of the OP.
If so, I apologize.
I still don't want you to whine. I'm glad you have an achievable goal and I hope you make a good plan and reach it.
It appears you realize it is an achievalbe goal. I recommend you don't let "issues" stand in your way.
good luck
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:56 pm to 904
quote:Depend on location. I bet you could move to smaller location, make less money, commute 50 miles to work find a small home and have more disposable income.cThing is you don't want to hear anything other than you are a victim. You're not.
Hypothetically, what would the average cost of a 2 bed 1 bath starter home have to get to for your average worker "doing everything right" to not be able to afford a house until they are in their 40s and infertile?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:57 pm to RollTide4547
Well said
These folks could be eating rice and beans and staying in seven nights a week. Then they could afford that sweet 3/2 DR Horton 50 miles away from the job that has demanded a return to office.
These folks could be eating rice and beans and staying in seven nights a week. Then they could afford that sweet 3/2 DR Horton 50 miles away from the job that has demanded a return to office.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:59 pm to NIH
I always forget until he gets there, who this guy is.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Has he touched on avocado toast and Starbucks yet
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:59 pm to NIH
quote:Or they can rent at twice the cost and continue to bitch and gripe...
These folks could be eating rice and beans and staying in seven nights a week. Then they could afford that sweet 3/2 DR Horton 50 miles away from the job that has demanded a return to office.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:frick you cocksucker. You're welcome to take a big dose of STFU.
I always forget until he gets there, who this guy is.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:00 pm to RollTide4547
Agreed. These folks are ungrateful whiners. Housing market has never been better.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:01 pm to 904
quote:
But the point is, this isn't about specifically you. This is about your average, hard-working, law-abiding young professional who is having to rent until their 30s and hold off on starting a family because, outside of taking a 2nd job and working a legitimately unhealthy and unreasonable amount of hours, they can't afford a starter home because median wages haven't kept up. That's the problem that needs solving, because its the worst median income to housing cost ratio in the last several decades. And intentionally raising housing prices is only going to make it worse. Just to reiterate, it's about empowering the median worker of their age group who's doing most everything right, also known as your current and future middle class which is what this country was built on.
This is the crux of the argument. People wonder why marriages and families are not happening and much of it leads back to unaffordability. If men can’t afford a family home, they will often abandon the pursuit of marriage all together. Our middle class is dying and young people feel hopeless. You can go to college, save, work hard, get a 6 figure job and still not be able to afford a family home in a safe neighborhood. It’s very frustrating
I am in the 85th percentile of income earners and cannot afford a 50th percentile home. Something is severely broken
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:01 pm to NIH
quote:
Has he touched on avocado toast and Starbucks yet
He hit boomer bingo a few pages back
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:01 pm to TigahJay
Wait what about all the Americans who were waiting for their savior Trump to fix the economy. So we should’ve invested under the democrats because Trump wants to inflate the housing market for current “hard working” owners. I don’t remember him rallying for that idea. Maybe some of the hard working property owners are ready to buy their next property?? How about make every market come down since he’s such a genius economist, how about making the entire US economy stable and efficient instead of greasing your own palms.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:01 pm to NIH
quote:Po po wittle titty baby can't afford no house. Call momma, maybe she can make you a sugar tit.
Has he touched on avocado toast and Starbucks yet
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:03 pm to NIH
quote:They are whiners. If they'd do the work/discipline to get into ownership they'd see.
These folks are ungrateful whiners. Housing market has never been better.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:03 pm to NIH
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:04 pm to RollTide4547
Now you’re coming across as angry
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:06 pm to High Life
These same people telling you that the housing market is fine and young folk are ungrateful were screaming just a year ago + that the economy was in shambles and only Trump could fix it and bring back affordability.
Now Trump is campaigning for the opposite of what he said to entice young voters. “Why did mid terms go so poorly”
Now Trump is campaigning for the opposite of what he said to entice young voters. “Why did mid terms go so poorly”
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:10 pm to RollTide4547
quote:
quote:
Hypothetically, what would the average cost of a 2 bed 1 bath starter home have to get to for your average worker "doing everything right" to not be able to afford a house until they are in their 40s and infertile?
Depend on location. I bet you could move to smaller location, make less money, commute 50 miles to work find a small home and have more disposable income.cThing is you don't want to hear anything other than you are a victim. You're not.
Say that income completely stagnates (instead of just slows as it is currently) for whatever reason and the 90th percentile and highest earners of 30 year olds "doing everything right" are making $130,000/year.
How much would the cheapest available and very meager 2 bed 1 bath starter house in the country have to cost for you to not put the onus on the individual to work longer hours and harder to make more money if they want a chance at home ownership?
$150,000?
$300,000?
$700,000?
$10,000,000?
I'm trying to figure out if the situation could ever get to a point where you would admit that there's a problem with potential policies and not the individual.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:12 pm
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