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Diversity: Coming face-to-face with it in Academia
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:59 am
While you were sleeping....
I recently concluded a weeks-long initiative with my old college Alma mater (I graduated in the late 20th Century). I'm still in deep shock about how DEI has infested the entire administrative system there and how the concept of excellence has all but vanished. If you think I'm exaggerating, bookmark this thread and compare notes after your next Alumni interaction.
How you are immediately devalued and muted is impressive. It’s like I’m still in a mild state of shock… It’s one thing hearing it from others… hoping they’re over-dramatizing… but seeing it first-hand is a real eye-opener… And if you think you can just call back and find someone else with a rational approach - I have news for you... And if you think it's limited to public colleges, think again.
I'm naturally skeptical of stuff I read nowadays, but I assure you, the following is a spot-on description of what I experienced:
• "When everything is potentially offensive, all communication must be as indirect as possible, and the result is that clear communication using direct and precise language becomes impossible."
• "Academic discourse, characterized by impenetrable jargon at the best of times, has become a submarine mine field of accepted nomenclatures continuously evolving into deeply offensive expressions of various isms and phobias under the savage selective pressure of the rabid status games played by academics desperately scrambling after the small and shrinking number of jobs. Self-censorship, as everyone knows, has become pervasive - in an environment where yesterday's mandatory vocabulary is today's cancellable hate speech, the only safe expression is to say nothing."
• “The rot is everywhere, touching everything, a miasma of mandatory make-believe that has choked off the oxygen of rational inquiry.”
• “Naturally the narrative is always false; it is precisely because it is false that it forbids even the discussion of alternatives, a taboo that expresses itself in the deplatforming or cancellation of deviants who dare "deny" the sacred narrative, or even to raise the most timid of questions about some minor aspect of it.”
The gypsies are in the palace...
The DIEing Academy
I recently concluded a weeks-long initiative with my old college Alma mater (I graduated in the late 20th Century). I'm still in deep shock about how DEI has infested the entire administrative system there and how the concept of excellence has all but vanished. If you think I'm exaggerating, bookmark this thread and compare notes after your next Alumni interaction.
How you are immediately devalued and muted is impressive. It’s like I’m still in a mild state of shock… It’s one thing hearing it from others… hoping they’re over-dramatizing… but seeing it first-hand is a real eye-opener… And if you think you can just call back and find someone else with a rational approach - I have news for you... And if you think it's limited to public colleges, think again.
I'm naturally skeptical of stuff I read nowadays, but I assure you, the following is a spot-on description of what I experienced:
• "When everything is potentially offensive, all communication must be as indirect as possible, and the result is that clear communication using direct and precise language becomes impossible."
• "Academic discourse, characterized by impenetrable jargon at the best of times, has become a submarine mine field of accepted nomenclatures continuously evolving into deeply offensive expressions of various isms and phobias under the savage selective pressure of the rabid status games played by academics desperately scrambling after the small and shrinking number of jobs. Self-censorship, as everyone knows, has become pervasive - in an environment where yesterday's mandatory vocabulary is today's cancellable hate speech, the only safe expression is to say nothing."
• “The rot is everywhere, touching everything, a miasma of mandatory make-believe that has choked off the oxygen of rational inquiry.”
• “Naturally the narrative is always false; it is precisely because it is false that it forbids even the discussion of alternatives, a taboo that expresses itself in the deplatforming or cancellation of deviants who dare "deny" the sacred narrative, or even to raise the most timid of questions about some minor aspect of it.”
The gypsies are in the palace...
The DIEing Academy
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:14 am to tigerpawl
So…. Like…… what else did you experience?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:14 am to tigerpawl
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I'm still in deep shock about how DEI has infested the entire administrative system
quote:
In social science, antipositivism (also interpretivism, negativism or antinaturalism) is a theoretical stance which proposes that the social realm cannot be studied with the methods of investigation utilized within the natural sciences, and that investigation of the social realm requires a different epistemology.
Because their entire belief system is anti scientific mythology.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:15 am to tigerpawl
Diversity only means different skin color to Marxists
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:16 am to tigerpawl
Think of that Gal May sitting at the helm in Harvard because she's Black; probably couldn't pass a basic exam. They are delusionally misguided, tp. "Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto Man, but the end thereof is destruction". I.e., "great delusion that they will believe a lie", with the idea that they serve the 'greater good'. Egalitarianism with good intentions is that "way". It goes all the way to core, universal Spiritual principle, and manifest in Transnational Progressivism. The 'government' of our future. Short reign albeit.
Dysfunction, collapse and reboot in the cards. Pretty quick.
Dysfunction, collapse and reboot in the cards. Pretty quick.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:16 am to Strannix
Good article. I would be interested to hear about your personal experience and which school you graduated from (if you are willing to share).
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:18 am to tigerpawl
This is how I feel about Hollywood content. You have to destroy the whole system to remove the DEI poison from reproducing itself in every piece of content.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:23 am to tigerpawl
What’s really sad is, many people think America can continue to take in unlimited illegals, fill our schools and universities with DEI hires, elect crooked politicians, fill the ranks of our military with wokeism, and America will continue to be great just because.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In social science, antipositivism (also interpretivism, negativism or antinaturalism) is a theoretical stance which proposes that the social realm cannot be studied with the methods of investigation utilized within the natural sciences, and that investigation of the social realm requires a different epistemology.
That is some serious BS. Bottom line meaning: There is no Truth, all things are relative and subjective and "the end justifies the means".
There are immutable consequences re Truth. And subjective interpretation will not assuage the the pain of said consequences. Though one might assume the burder of pain with the (subjectively perceived) consolation that one is a martyr for the greater good.
It's a mess.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:28 am to RCDfan1950
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That is some serious BS. Bottom line meaning: There is no Truth, all things are relative and subjective and "the end justifies the means".
Exactly.
They create a subset of criteria which is based on nothing but hope.
Progressive social and economic beliefs are anti scientific.
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in the context of the social sciences, the antipositivism of critical theory has taken on a twofold character: it is at once epistemological and sociological. This dual character can be identified through the two separate meanings of the term ‘critique’ which plays such an important role in the thought of the critical theorists
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:30 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:39 am to tigerpawl
4cubbies isn't going to like this, not one bit.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:47 am to Tyger32
quote:I had issues with my first point of contact. I thought it was an anomaly... maybe it was just me. I did a tactful end-run and got to a higherup, but even that produced only tepid results. It was persistent and widespread... the connection of dots in the traditional sense is out the window. The gaps in reasoning and accountability are real, and blissfully ignoring said gaps and redefining what's relevant (for you) is simply the "de rigueur". If you try to utilize time-tested logic and reason, you're put on their shitlist and banished to oblivion. Just when it's apparent you've prevailed with reasonable and respectful protocol, you're summarily dismissed with abrupt radio silence. They listen to no one but themselves.
I would be interested to hear about your personal experience and which school you graduated from (if you are willing to share).
If you think this was only noted by me, you're wrong. Generally speaking, it was almost as if I found myself inside a big real-life video arcade - totally detached from what I thought was reality... and I kept looking for the right buttons to push.
quote:Sorry, won't pin the tail on the donkey, but you'd be surprised... When you first get on campus, things look and feel essentially unchanged, but that's where the warm and fuzzy stops. Even their marketing material has you convinced nothing has changed. Surprise...
and which school you graduated from (if you are willing to share).
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:49 am to tigerpawl
Been going on for decades.
It was "political correctness" and "speech codes" in the early 90s.
It was "political correctness" and "speech codes" in the early 90s.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:54 am to tigerpawl
I haven’t had firsthand negative experience with DEI. It’s been several years since grad school.
I admit that I wonder whether some people exaggerate and overstate the problems.
I do object to anything that really stifles open discussion.
I admit that I wonder whether some people exaggerate and overstate the problems.
I do object to anything that really stifles open discussion.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:56 am to VOR
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I haven’t had firsthand negative experience with DEI
I'm shocked...
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:02 am to VOR
quote:I have a strong distaste for people who do this (exaggerate) and apply the same disciplines to myself. When actually engaging with these individuals, it's such a polished and organized phenomenon that you can't help but think it's not the exception.
I admit that I wonder whether some people exaggerate and overstate the problems.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:18 am to Revelator
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many people think America can continue to take in unlimited illegals, fill our schools and universities with DEI hires, elect crooked politicians, fill the ranks of our military with wokeism, and America will continue to be great just because.
Zero chance we can be great when our average national height shrinks 2.5 inches bc of all the stubby little Mexicans.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:07 pm to tigerpawl
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• "When everything is potentially offensive, all communication must be as indirect as possible, and the result is that clear communication using direct and precise language becomes impossible."
John McWhorter writes about this as 'softening of language.'
Example: When you've been talking on the phone with a friend and need to end it, you say: 'Well, lemme let ya go now...'
What you really mean is 'I need to hang up.'
Softening has always existed to a certain degree. But today it's going to extremes.
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