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District Judge: Gun Ban For Illegal Immigrant Unconstitutional

Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:31 am
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On March 8, 2024, U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman decided against a federal ban on gun ownership for illegal immigrant Heriberto Carbajal-Flores.

The case at hand centered on Carbajal-Flores, who was “charged with possession of a firearm while illegally or unlawfully in the United States.” He had a handgun in his possession “in the Little Village neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois,” on June 1, 2020. He was charged for being a non-citizen in possession for a firearm.

Carbajal-Flores sought twice, unsuccessfully, to have his indictment removed. But in his third attempt, a decision in the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit and the Supreme Court of the United States’ Bruen (2022) decision, resulted in a different outcome.


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Coleman ultimately concluded, “The noncitizen possession statute, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), violates the Second Amendment as applied to Carbajal-Flores. Thus, the Court grants Carbajal-Flores’ motion to dismiss.”

The case is United States v. Carbajal-Flores, No. 1:20-cr-00613 in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:32 am to
SHALL NOT
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:32 am to
Illegal immigrants are not THE PEOPLE

As in "We, The People"

Posted by Padme
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:32 am to
Now they’re ok with 2ndA
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:34 am to
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Now they’re ok with 2ndA

I imagine more liberal courts are going to make a lot of these rulings with cases that will troll conservatives.

So things like ruling felon in possession laws unconstitutional will follow shortly.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:35 am to
This one has me torn.
Posted by Laugh More
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:36 am to
Are you seriously arguing this or are you trolling?

Because if you are, this would be equivalent of a British person in London saying they have the right to bear arms in their country because America has the 2A.

Illegal immigrants are “We the People.”
Posted by BCreed1
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:39 am to
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Laugh More


All of his posts are that of a socialist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:39 am to
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Because if you are, this would be equivalent of a British person in London saying they have the right to bear arms in their country because America has the 2A.

No it's not

I imagine the country of origin of that illegal has much more restrictive gun laws than we do.

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Illegal immigrants are “We the People.”

The constitution limits government power against everyone within our borders.

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Are you seriously arguing this or are you trolling?


I think felon in possession laws should be rescinded, too. I'm very serious about the 2A and limiting government power and our police state.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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All of his posts are that of a socialist.

Socialists are the ones pushing to repeal gun laws?
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:43 am to
The time for good people to get pissed enough to do something has long since passed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:49 am to
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The time for good people to get pissed enough to do something has long since passed.

So "good people" want more gun control laws?

What color is your hair dyed? Do you identify the same gender as your sex? Who have you called a racist today?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:50 am to
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I think felon in possession laws should be rescinded,



I think I could live with that.

Felons don't follow the gun laws anyway so I don't see a net increase in danger to the public if it went away.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:51 am to
If you have a conviction for a violent gun crime, I'll listen to making future possession (after you've paid your debt society) illegal.
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:52 am to
Show me in the Constitution where rights are granted to non-citizens. Essentially where the entire earth is granted protections under the US Constitution.

I’ll wait.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:53 am to
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SlowFlowPro


I just wanted to pop in and say that you really need to get a life. shite posting on a message board shouldn’t be a hobby.
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:54 am to
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against everyone within our borders.


Well, uh, we don’t have borders, so there’s your first flaw
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:55 am to
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shouldn’t be a religion


Fixed it
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:58 am to
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So "good people" want more gun control laws? What color is your hair dyed? Do you identify the same gender as your sex? Who have you called
you might wanna read some of my other posts you are much closer to what you called me.


I want our current laws enforced - illegals don’t get to own guns period.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:59 am to
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after you've paid your debt society


If you can't have your full citizens rights back,

is your debt ever fully paid?
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