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re: DHS tells Obama judge to frick off. "You don't dictate foreign policy"

Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55587 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

in the specific situations where the IEEP was challenged, the law providing the president the power to issue sanctions is broad and the president has acted lawfully under the statute.


Are you admitting that one of these district courts was either inept or knowingly obstructing POTUS despite he was within his legal rights to do so?

I wonder if that is happening here....curious.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:14 pm to
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I just laid out every law pertinent to illegal immigration. You read it. The reason you didn't reply to those posts is because you know i'm right and because you suck at playing lawyer.


Again, my argument isn’t that he can’t deport criminals.

It’s that it isn’t an unchallengeable right of the executive branch. The reason every statue you provided talks about notice is so people have time to challenge their removal.

There is nothing in the statute saying that the removals aren’t subject to judicial review, in fact it says the oppositeZ

Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8337 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
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And if the Admin doesn’t like it they can go to an appeal court and the SCOTUS


If the Judge doesn't like the response of the Executive branch, feel free to do something about it.

Enough BS legal games with illegals. It is a freaking joke.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Are you admitting that one of these district courts was either inept or knowingly obstructing POTUS despite he was within his legal rights to do so? I wonder if that is happening here....curious.


possibly.

district courts are wrong all the time, but that’s doesn’t make their injunction something you can ignore.

now the jurisdiction issue is something else altogether, which is why i prefaced this whole
argument with the “in a court of valid jurisdiction.”

The general idea that District court judges can’t stay a removal within their jurisdiction is just untrue.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55587 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
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It’s that it isn’t an unchallengeable right of the executive branch. The reason every statue you provided talks about notice is so people have time to challenge their removal.



Again, i posted the time periods and noted that each criminal was already being imprisoned because of violent felonies. They weren't "surprise deported". You are just fighting for the injustice of pedophiles because it sides with the liberals. Not because you actually have a case here.

AGain, TDS is the ONLY reason you are throwing a fit. No other reason. All of this typing you are doing is just making you look like a slimy POS who values pedophiles, rapists, and murderers over innocent
Americans.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:21 pm to
I dont really care about the fact of the case.

I care mostly about the idea that the judicial branch doesn’t have any authority to review executive branch powers.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55587 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:23 pm to
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I care mostly about the idea that the judicial branch doesn’t have any authority to review executive branch powers.


But you don't care about judicial obstruction as long as it favors your side.

Stop pretending you are objective. Everyone on this board and others knows you are very much a leftist. Why are you ashamed of that fact?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120618 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:23 pm to
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If they brought a suit in Mass, and were deported from mass, a Mass judge would have full authority to stat or reverse the deportation while legal challenges are heard.


What if they brought a suit in Massachusetts for a person deported from Texas?

Because that’s what happened here.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17067 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:26 pm to
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there is a difference between trying to dictate foreign policy and dictating what the US law requires.

If they brought a suit in Mass, and were deported from mass, a Mass judge would have full authority to stat or reverse the deportation while legal challenges are heard.

And if the Admin doesn’t like it they can go to an appeal court and the SCOTUS

The idea that judges don’t have authority over cases being heard in their jurisdiction is asinine.


Hey knucklehead, a local judge does not have jurisdiction of south sudan, nor its citizens, even if george clooney and obama invented the country.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17067 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:28 pm to
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they can if it violates the law in their jurisdiction.


Show me the law in MA regarding citizens of south sudan?????????????
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

But you don't care about judicial obstruction as long as it favors your side.


I don’t consider what the courts are doing to be judicial obstruction.

File an appeal.

quote:

Again, i posted the time periods and noted that each criminal was already being imprisoned because of violent felonies.


I am definitely left leaning, but I dont care if a convicted pedophile
is deported, because at the end of the day, if it’s lawful it will happen. I more so care that the Trump Administration forcing a constitutional crisis.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Show me the law in MA regarding citizens of south sudan?????????????


he’s a federal judge you moron,

also federal immigration laws apply everywhere in the US.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5413 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:29 pm to
Didn't BugAC quote the exception clause?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
10469 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:29 pm to
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where they deported from Mass?


Doesn't matter at all, this is a matter of foreign policy.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55587 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:31 pm to
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I don’t consider what the courts are doing to be judicial obstruction.


I know. No one is surprised by this.

quote:

I am definitely left leaning, but I dont care if a convicted pedophile
is deported, because at the end of the day, if it’s lawful it will happen. I more so care that the Trump Administration forcing a constitutional crisis.


Again, TDS. You care that the TRUMP administration is forcing a constitutional crisis. Interesing:

1) Obama deported more illegals than Trump has, yet there was no constitutional crisis. In fact, Obama deported illegals faster than Trump has. Your outrage was not present. Why?
2) You think it's POTUS not ONLY liberal district court judges creating the crisis? again, your TDS is showing. Move on, clown.

quote:

I am definitely left leaning,


It makes me happy you are embarrassed by what you are that you can't even admit it. You know how evil lefitsts are and acknowledge it.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5413 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:32 pm to
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I dont really care about the fact of the case.


LOL! YOu don't say!

quote:

I care mostly about the idea that the judicial branch doesn’t have any authority to review executive branch powers.


You have been told for pages that this thread is about already convicted illegals. And you were shown that all due process was followed.

And you still fought for the people listed. You went to bat for them claiming they had no due rights given.

Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
3861 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:33 pm to
Sammy, SFP, and Hank are just one guy sitting in his mom’s basement rotating logins
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5413 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

What if they brought a suit in Massachusetts for a person deported from Texas?

Because that’s what happened here.


He answered that.. Here it is:


Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:21 pm to BugAC
I dont really care about the fact of the case.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5413 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:36 pm to
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I more so care that the Trump Administration forcing a constitutional crisis.


We already have that due to the district courts. You now have Appeal Court judge calling out the SCOTUS.

That's what you wanted and voted for. Lawfare is your game. So here we are!

Let's play.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76042 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Again, TDS. You care that the TRUMP administration is forcing a constitutional crisis. Interesing: 1) Obama deported more illegals than Trump has, yet there was no constitutional crisis. In fact, Obama deported illegals faster than Trump has. Your outrage was not present. Why? 2) You think it's POTUS not ONLY liberal district court judges creating the crisis? again, your TDS is showing. Move on, clown.


that’s not what would
cause the constitutional crisis moron.

What happens when the President and executive branch refuses to obey the Judicial branch?

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