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Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:44 am to Jjdoc
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We'v been through this:
1- Bush team
2- His Dismissal of Trump's indictment
He was already dropping in the polls. That did him in.
I'm replying to your post, but not solely to you.
All I'll say is that y'all conservatives need to stop worrying about whether its important to suck RD or DJT's dick.
Simply put, I, and every other normal conservative in the USA expect you to show out and vote for either of them in the general. They are significantly better than the alternative. Don't be some blow hard with hurt feelings.
Y'all have also taken the bait on the media driven Trump v. Desantis feud. It's embarrassing.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:50 am to David_DJS
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quote:
1- Bush team
So MAGA voters are triggered by nonsense? I wish this wasn't the case.
You fail to understand that we no longer are willing to get behind rinos. We are anti globalism. etc... It's not nonsense. It's a matter of policies.
To us, this is like saying "so what if (insert your favorite Dem) is helping DeSantis." "It's nonsense to not get behind him because of that"
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This is a weird one. Why would you expect someone to get emotional about a bogus indictment that'll end up helping the accused more than it hurts?
Yet he was arrested over bogus. What happened with support afterwards has nothing to do with this. This is like saying "So what if he said that.. he gained support so why would it matter".
It matters because that was his mindset and what his tam thought would work.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:52 am to fjlee90
quote:
All I'll say is that y'all conservatives need to stop worrying about whether its important to suck RD or DJT's dick.
That's not what is happening with MAGA voters. This is a matter of policy and the lack of leadership on DeSantis' part.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
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You fail to understand that we no longer are willing to get behind rinos. We are anti globalism. etc... It's not nonsense. It's a matter of policies.
What in DeSantis's record makes him a globalist?
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To us, this is like saying "so what if (insert your favorite Dem) is helping DeSantis." "It's nonsense to not get behind him because of that"
Well, you're pretty dim then. Should someone be dissuaded from supporting Trump because David Duke is an only-Trumper?
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It matters because that was his mindset and what his tam thought would work
Are we still pretending that DeSantis didn't speak out (critically) of the prosecutor and indictment?
This is like Gumbo arguing that he learned all he needed to know about DeSantis when it took a week for RDS to make a public comment about the raid on MAL, only to "learn" (for about the 3rd time) that RDS made very pointed comments on the day of the raid.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:06 pm to BugAC
LINKYou forgot these:
1. DeSantis voted for TPP
2. DeSantis co-sponsored legislation with 30 Democrats that would make Puerto Rico a state
3. DeSantis often praised Paul Ryan, John Bolton and the Bush Cabal.
4. DeSantis voted 3 times to privatize Social Security and Medicare and increase the retirement age to 70.
5. Trump wanted to level the playing field on trade with China and threatened tariffs. Then Congressman DeSantis made it clear that he would give Trump runway to use tariffs strictly as negotiating tools like in Art of the Deal, but he made it clear he would oppose tariffs on China imports.
6. DeSantis was very much an ally of deep state and said Trump wasn't tough enough on Putin.
7. He was a strong ally of Zelensky and Ukraine and voted to give them funding. DeSantis actually wrote a letter to then Secretary of State John Kerry asking for the Obama Administration to do more to help Ukraine.
8. Christina Pushaw came to work for Ron DeSantis in 2021 as one of his top aides and advisors.?Who is Christina Pushaw? I have included receipts in this thread. Your will find in comments under this Tweet.??Christina worked for a Soros funded NGO in Eastern Europe, worked for Zelensky in Ukraine, and for Mikheil Saakashvilli in the country of Georgia from 2018-2020. Pushaw also lived in Russia in 2011 and was meeting with anti-Putin dissidents.
Pushaw lived in Tbilisi Georgia in 2020 while working for Saakashvilli.
What is interesting is there is a biolab in Tbilisi funded in part by the U.S. Army Medical Research Directive. Many believe it is a lab like the biolabs in Ukraine that are involved in developing bioweapons for the CIA.
Pushaw bragged how her neighbors in Tbilisi had connections and received special permission to drive during the COVID shutdown, when all others were faced with a ban on driving.
Everyone knows who Zelensky is. Let's look at her former employer Saakashvilli.
In 2003, he led the CIA supported "Rose Revolution" in Georgia that led to the ouster of the pro-Russia President Severadnaze.
Saakashvili served as President of Georgia from 2004 to 2013. He then founded the United National Party. He is currently serving prison sentence for abuse of power and for attacking a Member of Parliament in 2021.
Pushaw tows the Deep State line on Ukraine .
Do you think it is a coincidence that she found her way to Florida working for a man that clearly has Presidential aspirations?
9. DeSantis voted against H.R. 1625 and H.R. 3354 which contained border wall funding. A one time Mega Donor to Donald Trump named David MacNeil got upset at Donald Trump because he refused to grant amnesty to DACA and refused to support him further. Trump also tried to end DACA in 2017. The very same donor has been very generous giving to Ron DeSantis.
10. Despite the talking points now about how DeSantis kept Florida open during COVID, he actually did shut down Florida Beaches and he actually did promote the vaccines. DeSantis kept the corporate hotel chains open, but shut down private vacation rentals. Private vacation rental owners filed a lawsuit against DeSantis for discrimination. DeSantis also issued an executive order that stated visitors to Florida be quarantined and law enforcement would help enforce the quarantine. DeSantis used a 100 year old WWII Veteran to promote the vaccine on Fox News. DeSantis had the Vet take the vaccine on Fox and Friends and DeSantis was strongly promoting the vaccine and bragging how well Florida was doing getting everyone vaccinated. The 100 year old Vet died 4 weeks later. This video compares South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and DeSantis response to COVID. and uses their own words. One of DeSantis most ardent supporters now, attacked him for shutting down Broward County during COVID.
Cont….
1. DeSantis voted for TPP
2. DeSantis co-sponsored legislation with 30 Democrats that would make Puerto Rico a state
3. DeSantis often praised Paul Ryan, John Bolton and the Bush Cabal.
4. DeSantis voted 3 times to privatize Social Security and Medicare and increase the retirement age to 70.
5. Trump wanted to level the playing field on trade with China and threatened tariffs. Then Congressman DeSantis made it clear that he would give Trump runway to use tariffs strictly as negotiating tools like in Art of the Deal, but he made it clear he would oppose tariffs on China imports.
6. DeSantis was very much an ally of deep state and said Trump wasn't tough enough on Putin.
7. He was a strong ally of Zelensky and Ukraine and voted to give them funding. DeSantis actually wrote a letter to then Secretary of State John Kerry asking for the Obama Administration to do more to help Ukraine.
8. Christina Pushaw came to work for Ron DeSantis in 2021 as one of his top aides and advisors.?Who is Christina Pushaw? I have included receipts in this thread. Your will find in comments under this Tweet.??Christina worked for a Soros funded NGO in Eastern Europe, worked for Zelensky in Ukraine, and for Mikheil Saakashvilli in the country of Georgia from 2018-2020. Pushaw also lived in Russia in 2011 and was meeting with anti-Putin dissidents.
Pushaw lived in Tbilisi Georgia in 2020 while working for Saakashvilli.
What is interesting is there is a biolab in Tbilisi funded in part by the U.S. Army Medical Research Directive. Many believe it is a lab like the biolabs in Ukraine that are involved in developing bioweapons for the CIA.
Pushaw bragged how her neighbors in Tbilisi had connections and received special permission to drive during the COVID shutdown, when all others were faced with a ban on driving.
Everyone knows who Zelensky is. Let's look at her former employer Saakashvilli.
In 2003, he led the CIA supported "Rose Revolution" in Georgia that led to the ouster of the pro-Russia President Severadnaze.
Saakashvili served as President of Georgia from 2004 to 2013. He then founded the United National Party. He is currently serving prison sentence for abuse of power and for attacking a Member of Parliament in 2021.
Pushaw tows the Deep State line on Ukraine .
Do you think it is a coincidence that she found her way to Florida working for a man that clearly has Presidential aspirations?
9. DeSantis voted against H.R. 1625 and H.R. 3354 which contained border wall funding. A one time Mega Donor to Donald Trump named David MacNeil got upset at Donald Trump because he refused to grant amnesty to DACA and refused to support him further. Trump also tried to end DACA in 2017. The very same donor has been very generous giving to Ron DeSantis.
10. Despite the talking points now about how DeSantis kept Florida open during COVID, he actually did shut down Florida Beaches and he actually did promote the vaccines. DeSantis kept the corporate hotel chains open, but shut down private vacation rentals. Private vacation rental owners filed a lawsuit against DeSantis for discrimination. DeSantis also issued an executive order that stated visitors to Florida be quarantined and law enforcement would help enforce the quarantine. DeSantis used a 100 year old WWII Veteran to promote the vaccine on Fox News. DeSantis had the Vet take the vaccine on Fox and Friends and DeSantis was strongly promoting the vaccine and bragging how well Florida was doing getting everyone vaccinated. The 100 year old Vet died 4 weeks later. This video compares South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and DeSantis response to COVID. and uses their own words. One of DeSantis most ardent supporters now, attacked him for shutting down Broward County during COVID.
Cont….
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:06 pm to FlexDawg
11. DeSantis joined the left going after Trump for J6 and trashing the J6 attendees. DeSantis Deputy Press Secretary Jeremy Redfern cheered Ashli Babbitt’s death.
12. Karl Rove just hosted a fundraiser in Texas for DeSantis that included Bush donors.
13. Mike Lindell went after DeSantis for hosting and heaping praise on the attorney representing Dominion.
14. Some of the same folks that strongly opposed Trump in 2016 and supported Ted Cruz are supporting DeSantis now. Folks like Ken “The Cockroach” Cuccinelli actually tried to steal the GOP Nomination of Trump at the 2016 Republican National Convention. I strongly fought back against their attempts.
15. In 2016, Rep. DeSantis strongly opposed Trump.
16. 14. Ron DeSantis has aligned himself with globalist RINOs that want to destroy Trump and MAGA. Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Hedge Fund Manager Ken Griffin, and many others. DeSantis praised Mitt Romney and said “Romney is one of the most philanthropic people who’s ever even pursued the presidency.” The folks/groups in the photo below are opposing Trump and supporting DeSantis. They view him as one of them. The DeSantis Campaign is like a Trojan Horse . On the outside, it looks like MAGA, but when you open up the inside, you see globalist RINOs in control. They feel if they can take out Trump with a candidate pretending to be MAGA, once Trump is gone, they can destroy MAGATeam DeSantis called security/police on Trump supporters and forced activists with Trump hats and shirts to leave RINO Ron’s book signing.
17. DeSantis likes to brag about how he took on Disney and beat them. He is not being honest. Disney owned DeSantis. They got to keep their 578 million dollar annual tax break and the only change was the make-up of the Board and the name of the board that functions as a governing body.
18. DeSantis supports red flag laws in Florida . ?DeSantis hopes red flag laws will help thwart future shootings
19. DeSantis joins the Cancel Culture in 2019.?DeSantis wants statue of civil rights activist to replace Confederate figure on Capitol Hill
20. There was widespread condemnation of the unjust actions of the Manhattan D.A. and his plans to indict Trump . There was widespread condemnation in the Republican Party for the actions of the D.A. Never Trumpers Mike Pence and Chris Christie condemned it. DeSantis was silent while the GOP was united in condemning it. When RINO Ron did speak about it, he threw Trump under the bus in an interview with an ultra-liberal media figure from the UK. DeSantis also trashed J6 and said Trump should have just accepted the results of the 2020 election. ?DeSantis says Trump should've given up power like George Washington after loss?Excerpts: “He even doubled down on a Monday comment that he didn't know 'what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.” “For the first time, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has criticized former President Donald Trump for refusing to concede power following the 2020 election – in a generalized comment referencing events more than 200 years ago.?DeSantis, who condemned rioters inside the Capitol where he once served, but has said little about Trump's push to have courts and allies toss out the results, made remarks during an interview with Piers Morgan, where he also blasted Trump administration chaos. “DeSantis issued a statement on Jan. 6, 2021 saying 'violence or rioting of any kind is unacceptable, and the perpetrators must face the full weight of the law.”?“He also called it 'totally unacceptable, and those folks need to be held accountable,' adding the following day that, ''It doesn’t matter what banner you’re flying under — the violence is wrong, the rioting and disorder is wrong.'?On the first anniversary of January 6, he compared it to Christmas for the 'D.C.-New York media,' who he said were allowed to put forward negative narratives.”
21. RINO Ron gave a bailout to the insurance companies and said screw you to Floridians. After Donald Trump blasts insurance industry 'bailout,' Ron DeSantis retreats behind closed doors to sign it
22. Fox News Commentator says that “the Bushes” and Karl Rove are running Ron DeSantis’ shadow presidential campaign???
12. Karl Rove just hosted a fundraiser in Texas for DeSantis that included Bush donors.
13. Mike Lindell went after DeSantis for hosting and heaping praise on the attorney representing Dominion.
14. Some of the same folks that strongly opposed Trump in 2016 and supported Ted Cruz are supporting DeSantis now. Folks like Ken “The Cockroach” Cuccinelli actually tried to steal the GOP Nomination of Trump at the 2016 Republican National Convention. I strongly fought back against their attempts.
15. In 2016, Rep. DeSantis strongly opposed Trump.
16. 14. Ron DeSantis has aligned himself with globalist RINOs that want to destroy Trump and MAGA. Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Hedge Fund Manager Ken Griffin, and many others. DeSantis praised Mitt Romney and said “Romney is one of the most philanthropic people who’s ever even pursued the presidency.” The folks/groups in the photo below are opposing Trump and supporting DeSantis. They view him as one of them. The DeSantis Campaign is like a Trojan Horse . On the outside, it looks like MAGA, but when you open up the inside, you see globalist RINOs in control. They feel if they can take out Trump with a candidate pretending to be MAGA, once Trump is gone, they can destroy MAGATeam DeSantis called security/police on Trump supporters and forced activists with Trump hats and shirts to leave RINO Ron’s book signing.
17. DeSantis likes to brag about how he took on Disney and beat them. He is not being honest. Disney owned DeSantis. They got to keep their 578 million dollar annual tax break and the only change was the make-up of the Board and the name of the board that functions as a governing body.
18. DeSantis supports red flag laws in Florida . ?DeSantis hopes red flag laws will help thwart future shootings
19. DeSantis joins the Cancel Culture in 2019.?DeSantis wants statue of civil rights activist to replace Confederate figure on Capitol Hill
20. There was widespread condemnation of the unjust actions of the Manhattan D.A. and his plans to indict Trump . There was widespread condemnation in the Republican Party for the actions of the D.A. Never Trumpers Mike Pence and Chris Christie condemned it. DeSantis was silent while the GOP was united in condemning it. When RINO Ron did speak about it, he threw Trump under the bus in an interview with an ultra-liberal media figure from the UK. DeSantis also trashed J6 and said Trump should have just accepted the results of the 2020 election. ?DeSantis says Trump should've given up power like George Washington after loss?Excerpts: “He even doubled down on a Monday comment that he didn't know 'what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.” “For the first time, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has criticized former President Donald Trump for refusing to concede power following the 2020 election – in a generalized comment referencing events more than 200 years ago.?DeSantis, who condemned rioters inside the Capitol where he once served, but has said little about Trump's push to have courts and allies toss out the results, made remarks during an interview with Piers Morgan, where he also blasted Trump administration chaos. “DeSantis issued a statement on Jan. 6, 2021 saying 'violence or rioting of any kind is unacceptable, and the perpetrators must face the full weight of the law.”?“He also called it 'totally unacceptable, and those folks need to be held accountable,' adding the following day that, ''It doesn’t matter what banner you’re flying under — the violence is wrong, the rioting and disorder is wrong.'?On the first anniversary of January 6, he compared it to Christmas for the 'D.C.-New York media,' who he said were allowed to put forward negative narratives.”
21. RINO Ron gave a bailout to the insurance companies and said screw you to Floridians. After Donald Trump blasts insurance industry 'bailout,' Ron DeSantis retreats behind closed doors to sign it
22. Fox News Commentator says that “the Bushes” and Karl Rove are running Ron DeSantis’ shadow presidential campaign???
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:10 pm to BugAC
Hang around and do nothing in Congress for 6 years.
just an oversight I am sure
just an oversight I am sure
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:13 pm to fjlee90
quote:
All I'll say is that y'all conservatives need to stop worrying about whether its important to suck RD or DJT's dick.
I can't speak for Jjdoc but it's vitally important to me that I don't suck either one's dick. Or any dick.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:14 pm to David_DJS
quote:
What in DeSantis's record makes him a globalist?
TPP for one. But the comment was directed towards the people running his show.
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Well, you're pretty dim then. Should someone be dissuaded from supporting Trump because David Duke is an only-Trumper?
That's not the same thing at all. Now if you were to say David Duke is running his campaign... then you have it right.
quote:
Are we still pretending that DeSantis didn't speak out (critically) of the prosecutor and indictment?
This is like Gumbo arguing that he learned all he needed to know about DeSantis when it took a week for RDS to make a public comment about the raid on MAL, only to "learn" (for about the 3rd time) that RDS made very pointed comments on the day of the raid.
Th day it leaked out, DeSantis stated "I have real problems to deal with"
You will never spin that to anything that is considered positive. I even told you were the polling data would be. 19%... and that's where it went.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:17 pm to Flats
quote:
I can't speak for Jjdoc but it's vitally important to me that I don't suck either one's dick. Or any dick.
Truth!
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:27 pm to FlexDawg
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9. DeSantis voted against H.R. 1625 and H.R. 3354 which contained border wall funding. A one time Mega Donor to Donald Trump named David MacNeil got upset at Donald Trump because he refused to grant amnesty to DACA and refused to support him further. Trump also tried to end DACA in 2017. The very same donor has been very generous giving to Ron DeSantis.
I randomly picked just one of your "proofs" that DeSantis is a globalist/rino. The one about him voting against border wall funding - H.R. 1625
Here's how prominent Republicans voted on that bill:
Voted YEA
Paul Ryan
Kevin McCarthy
Lynn Cheney
Steve Scalise
Trey Gowdy
Peter King
Voted NAY
Ron DeSantis
Thomas Massie
Kristi Noem
Jim Jordan
Andy Biggs
Matt Gaetz
Which group is the RINO/Globalist group, and which is not?
You are retarded.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:30 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
Now if you were to say David Duke is running his campaign... then you have it right.
So RDS is a globalist because of a person you've decided is running a campaign that you're bitching every day hasn't begun yet? Okay.
quote:
Th day it leaked out, DeSantis stated "I have real problems to deal with"
Is that all he said, jjdoc? You wouldn't be posting dishonestly here, would you? You haven't taken RDS's comments out of context or anything like that, right?
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:32 pm to David_DJS
Ron Damnesty is in favor of making all of the illegals in the US citizens.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:35 pm to David_DJS
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Which group is the RINO/Globalist group, and which is not?
As a good friend of mine said after his stint in a state legislature, "all bills are shite". He said every single thing he voted for had garbage in it he hated and every single thing he voted against had things he liked. Anybody with a voting record can be attacked by cherry-picking the good issues buried in a shite bill they rejected.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:38 pm to MrLSU
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Ron Damnesty is in favor of making all of the illegals in the US citizens.
Immigration Reform Act (H.R. 6136). The bill would grant amnesty to an estimated 1.8 million illegal immigrants and put them on a path to citizenship.
DeSantis voted NO.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:43 pm to Lou Pai
He doesn't have rallies with Kid Rock though so I'm out
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:43 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:43 pm to David_DJS
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quote:
Now if you were to say David Duke is running his campaign... then you have it right.
So RDS is a globalist because of a person you've decided is running a campaign that you're bitching every day hasn't begun yet? Okay.
You are not listening. DeSantis is running. Everything points to that. You know it, I know it. You are simply mad that the team building and his answers have made MAGA voters take notice.
You just turned to "But it's not announced". But we both know its a shadow campaign and we both know who is running it.
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Is that all he said, jjdoc? You wouldn't be posting dishonestly here, would you? You haven't taken RDS's comments out of context or anything like that, right?
Again... Not listening. Nothing else he stated mattered because of that comment. You can get mad and pitch a fit. But I'm not the only one that saw it... thus the drop to 19%
I'm not the one that made him state that. His team did.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:45 pm to Pettifogger
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He doesn't have rallies with Kid Rock though so I'm out
No but his super pac announced they are going to bringing crowds for him!
$$$$$$
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