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re: DeSantis promises to relocate Dept of Agriculture to Iowa
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:16 pm to Elblancodiablo
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:16 pm to Elblancodiablo
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Ron is pulling the Ted Cruz method of putting all his eggs into winning Iowa for a sign of any momentum
While I agree with the move, it smacks of desperation on his part.
Sounds like fear on your part.
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:30 pm to aggressor
Just like Obama promised more Ethanol. 
Must win Iowa.
Must win Iowa.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:34 pm to aggressor
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More of this please, we need to move as many agencies out of DC as possible. I give Trump credit for moving Land Management to Grand Junction but we need a LOT more of this.
Agreed. Get as many agencies out if DC as possible.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:39 pm to BBONDS25
Possibly one of the dumbest leftist arguments was why this was a bad idea, and it basically pretended like we live life with 1970s technology.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:57 pm to aggressor
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Sounds like fear on your part
Nobody is in fear of a guy that is losing his arse.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:58 pm to aggressor
He was in Sioux City today and had dozens of people there!! Lol
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:49 am to Richleau
quote:I don't. It's a dumb idea, no offense.
I like the concept of moving departments out of DC
Local culture will not change the nature of a federal bureaucracy. I think the opposite would happen. Keep that crap contained in D.C.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:52 am to LSUgusto
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Local culture will not change the nature of a federal bureaucracy
Sure it will. You're allowing the snake to literally conglomerate in one area. This is more than just federal employees. You have lawyers, lobbyists, "think tank" employees, etc. all concentrated in one place.
You spread that out and you diffuse the power of all the parts of the machine. You put these offices around the US and you increase the population of employees who aren't part of a hive mind.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:54 am to TheRock
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Supports TX independence and kicking the feds out.
Also supports IA (and other states) moving feds in.
If you read that thread's OP, you'd know why they're different.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You also increase the number of bureaucrats living in the community. These offices would likely be among the single largest employers in any state they land, outside of a few.
You put these offices around the US and you increase the population of employees who aren't part of a hive mind.
They will be well funded and immune from normal economic cycles, making these offices more lucrative and stable places to amass local power and influence. They will change the local culture more than local culture would change them, IMHO.
Do you think the general Iowa populace would favor big budget cuts/layoffs to the Ag. Dept. if its headquartered in Des Moines vs. D.C.?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:44 am to LSUgusto
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You also increase the number of bureaucrats living in the community.
Which isn't any impact if you remove them from the hive mind. That's the point.
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Do you think the general Iowa populace would favor big budget cuts/layoffs to the Ag. Dept. if its headquartered in Des Moines vs. D.C.?
Iowa is a fricking whore to ethanol so they'll suck the tit however they can. That applies everywhere.
Do I think that this hypocrisy would mean they vote DEM more often? No. That's silly. They're hypocrites, but also idealogues re: the party.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You'd be creating a new hive. They wouldn't be totally disconnected to Washington, either, even if they were located in Nome, AK. They know where the paychecks are signed.
you remove them from the hive mind. That's the point.
quote:You admit that sucking the tit would apply everywhere.
Iowa is a fricking whore to ethanol so they'll suck the tit however they can. That applies everywhere.
quote:But you don't think these institutions would spawn a population that is beholden to the machine, because the whores are too ideological?
Do I think that this hypocrisy would mean they vote DEM more often? No. That's silly.
I'm not following your logic here.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:12 am to LSUgusto
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You admit that sucking the tit would apply everywhere
Because Republicans and MAGA are not serious about spending, along with DEMs.
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But you don't think these institutions would spawn a population that is beholden to the machine,
You're using talking point language and you need to describe specifically what you're talking about before anyone can answer rationally
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Okay. Let's put the Department of Energy in New Orleans.
you need to describe specifically what you're talking about before anyone can answer rationally
Now New Orleans would have an office with a budget of $30+ billion, with 15,000 employees making some of the highest salaries in the state.
Sure, they might hire a few locals. But the department would still be headed by appointments from D.C., and overseen by the Executive Branch.
Now you've got one of the most powerful institutions in the state beholden to D.C. The people who work there will be loyal to the machine, not their local culture. As you said, whores are everywhere.
Can you describe how hiring local folks will change any of this?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:35 am to aggressor
USDA should be abolished, not moved.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:38 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Agreed. Moving the USDA to a different location will only encourage that location to support the continued existence of the USDA.
USDA should be abolished, not moved.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:04 am to aggressor
How about we dissolve the Dept of Agriculture (along with a couple hundred other federal departments of whatever) and lower taxes on income earners in this country? Why does no candidate ever mention something like this?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:17 am to aggressor
Need to locate the new fbi headquarters in tupelo Mississippi
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:51 am to aggressor
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DeSantis promises to relocate Dept of Agriculture to Iowa
He must be talking about moving the Florida Dept of Ag to Iowa, because he has no chance of moving any federal offices anywhere ever.
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