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re: Dershowitz condemns raid
Posted on 4/10/18 at 7:08 am to rbWarEagle
Posted on 4/10/18 at 7:08 am to rbWarEagle
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No, rational people should question what level of evidence must have allowed this search warrant to go through.
You mean like the level of evidence they used for weaponized surveillance on his campaign?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 7:12 am to JuiceTerry
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So why is Dersh crying about privilege?
Man sure makes one wonder why
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:11 am to starsandstripes
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So you admit the integrity of this process is compromised but you want to shite on people for not knowing the technical details of the process, even though such details are irrelevant because of dirty cops and crooked lawyers. In other words, people understand this situation but you just want to shite on them for your own enjoyment.
If you read my posts throughout the board, I consistently "shite on" posters from both sides who scream about topics they don't have a clue about. I can't stand it, if you don't know what you are talking about, refuse to educate yourself, AND argue with posters who have superior knowledge on the topic, just shut shut up.
I've explained the process and why the exception rule is irrelevant here UNLESS the FBI actually proactively says they want those privileged materials (which as of now they have not) , and what the possible charges they could be investigating against Cohen that would not touch the President at least 10 times on this board and yet we still have people arguing this or that nonsense position.
As the Professor says, this raid WAS a big deal because of the way they conducted it, and because normally an attorney's office is sacrosanct unless it is thought that there is SPECIFIC evidence in it (meaning normally the FBI doesn't clean out an attorney's office like they did here) BUT the FBI will NOT just be able to peek through the confidential material at their leisure, there is a process in place to protect it.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:32 am to JuiceTerry
Where did you go to law school?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:32 am to rbWarEagle
quote:Probably something as credible as the dossier, right?
No, rational people should question what level of evidence must have allowed this search warrant to go through.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:35 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
I'm not arguing with you, but do you really trust those "Clean Teams?" You've laid out the process, buy after the Clinton email joke investigation, how can anyone trust it?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:40 am to Jake88
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I'm not arguing with you, but do you really trust those "Clean Teams?" You've laid out the process, buy after the Clinton email joke investigation, how can anyone trust it?
Not in any way, shape, or form. That is why I would be in court today requesting a federal magistrate act as the clean team, I don't trust the FBI at this point. Sad as that is.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:40 am to Strannix
WGAF what this Fox schill has to say? All that matters is all the attorney’s that Trump has appointed has decided that somebody probably broke the law. I bet Trump has already been through 5 pairs of Depends this am.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:44 am to goatmilker
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So why is Dersh crying about privilege?
Man sure makes one wonder why
Duh because he's a civil libertarian defense attorney who doesn't believe the government ought ever be allowed to go into an attorney's office PERIOD.
On the practical side though, he certainly said much the same I have, the FBI investigators will NOT get to look at the stuff that is privileged without going through a process (unless they just ignore the process, which they probably won't but they could which is why Dersh is concerned)
This isn't rocket science at all.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:47 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Because 19 indictments and 5 guilty pleas means they’re corrupt? LOL
This place is upside down man. 98% of the board is in full melt because their messiah is getting ready to be the subject of a criminal investigation.
PDT has had affairs, not paid workers for services rendered, a compulsive liar at every breath...but he is being treated unfairly. LOL
This place is upside down man. 98% of the board is in full melt because their messiah is getting ready to be the subject of a criminal investigation.
PDT has had affairs, not paid workers for services rendered, a compulsive liar at every breath...but he is being treated unfairly. LOL
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:51 am to Strannix
quote:This has been the longest application process ever
Dershowitz condemns raid
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:52 am to WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Because 19 indictments and 5 guilty pleas means they’re corrupt? LOL
nonsensical
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This place is upside down man. 98% of the board is in full melt because their messiah is getting ready to be the subject of a criminal investigation.
no he isn't
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PDT has had affairs, not paid workers for services rendered, a compulsive liar at every breath...but he is being treated unfairly. LOL
Hey dummy, a guy could be a mass murderer and the FBI still has certain protocols and standards they are supposed to meet AND laws they are supposed to follow. And in this case , yes lots of folks have been arrested for crimes that were either discovered or created from this investigation, but that isn't how our legal system is supposed to operate. We don't investigate people until we get some convictions. We investigate CRIMES until we figure out who did it.
Imagine if I was a cop and I just strolled up to your house and said "Russian collusion" and started rummaging through your house until I found your pot stash and arrested you for that . Your attorney would have a field day with me, and rightfully so. Yes okay you broke the law by having a pot stash, but that sure didn't justify my behavior as a LEO.
You liberals have lost your goddamned minds along with any sense of what is right or wrong in your single minded pursuit of Donald Trump
THe law also doesn't give a frick about affairs or civil disagreements.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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THe law also doesn't give a frick about affairs or civil disagreements
A lot of time spent on this post and yet not one valid point. Keep trying tho. Let the melt consume you.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:00 am to WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Because 19 indictments and 5 guilty pleas
Can't you do better than this? Seriously, most of those people aren't even Americans and none of them have anything to do with Trump or Cohen.
Does the FBI get to kick your door down in the middle of the night and rough up your kids just because a judge who hates your politics signs a warrant? When you protest, can the FBI just point to this giant ambiguous SC and say "but muh Mueller referral", and you have zero rights because no one knows exactly what the scope of this council is anymore?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:03 am to WillieNelsonsDoobie
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A lot of time spent on this post and yet not one valid point. Keep trying tho. Let the melt consume you.
Are you fricking kidding me right now? It's beyond obvious that you have lost your goddamned mind, I post facts you post drivel.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:05 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:228 posts member since 2014, 218 since March, dude is another alter.
Are you fricking kidding me right now? It's beyond obvious that you have lost your goddamned mind, I post facts you post drivel.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:06 am to Vacherie Saint
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Does the FBI get to kick your door down in the middle of the night and rough up your kids just
Wha? They’re roughin up the childrens now? Oh boy...first let me say that that is a lie. Second is, homey, I’ve never committed a crime or worked with a hostile country to launder money...so I’m good. No door kickin happening to me tonight.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:09 am to Jbird
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228 posts member since 2014, 218 since March, dude is another alter
Nah, I was a lurker most of the time, enjoying reading folks posts. But when so many baws are up PDT’s arse, it’s too damn hard to not point out your hipocrisy of your liar-in-chief
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:14 am to WillieNelsonsDoobie
Your posts make your sexuality unclear.
Thought you might have kids since they let the gays adopt now.
But all that aside, Manafort's wife was manhandled by federal agents, so you can go back to playing dumb now. Unless you weren't playing.
Thought you might have kids since they let the gays adopt now.
But all that aside, Manafort's wife was manhandled by federal agents, so you can go back to playing dumb now. Unless you weren't playing.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:15 am to WillieNelsonsDoobie
quote:Silent through the election.
Nah, I was a lurker most of the time, enjoying reading folks posts. But when so many baws are up PDT’s arse, it’s too damn hard to not point out your hipocrisy of your liar-in-chief
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