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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison

Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:19 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:19 am to
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What consequences have people faced from refusing to indict or acquitting?


Do you know how a grand jury works?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20196 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:24 am to
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Try looking at the actual photos and video -- he's clearly putting all his weight directly on Floyd's neck.


Go ahead and post one or two.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:29 am to
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Just saying that a jury can and will let politics and outside opinion color their judgement and will find people either guilty or innocent when clearly the opposite is true


Cool. That does not mean then that every jury does this. Nor is it evidence that Derek Chauvin’s jury did this.
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:40 am to
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What physical evidence was used in determining the asphyxiation diagnosis?


His dead body.

quote:

What typical signs of asphyxiation weren’t present?


NY Times, June 2, 2020:

The criminal complaint supporting a murder charge for the officer, which referred to the Hennepin County medical examiner’s preliminary findings, said the autopsy had discounted traumatic asphyxia or strangulation as the cause of Mr. Floyd’s death.
The private autopsy by doctors hired by Mr. Floyd’s family determined that he died not just because of the knee on his neck — held there by the officer, Derek Chauvin — but also because of two other officers who helped pin him down by applying pressure on his back. All three officers were fired last week, as was a fourth officer at the scene.

The cause of death, according to the private autopsy, was mechanical asphyxia and the manner of death was homicide.

Shortly after the family’s autopsy findings were announced, the Hennepin County medical examiner released its own findings, also concluding that the manner of death was homicide. The county attributed the cause of death to “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”

In other words, Mr. Floyd’s heart stopped beating and his lungs stopped taking in air while he was being restrained by law enforcement.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21889 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:48 am to




https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/




This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:08 pm to
You posted all of that and didn’t answer a single question in my post.

Do you know how asphyxiation determinations are made in cases where there aren’t the typical physical signs of asphyxiation? You don’t. And you don’t even understand what you posted. What a dumb shite you are.

Is this a BamaAtl alter? Or some other dumb shite?
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:11 pm to
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You posted all of that and didn’t answer a single question in my post.

Do you know how asphyxiation determinations are made in cases where there aren’t the typical physical signs of asphyxiation? You don’t. And you don’t even understand what you posted. What a dumb shite you are.

Is this a BamaAtl alter? Or some other dumb shite?


I answered all your questions. Unless you are a trained criminal pathologist or county coroner, I suggest you shut your rotten mouth, you pathetic know-it-all. Seriously, why are you defending Chauvin anyway? Because you can't handle the truth? He was killed by cops. Deal with it.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:18 pm to
You didn’t list one physical piece of evidence listed in the asphyxiation.

Nor did you list the typical signs of asphyxiation that weren’t present.

Because you’re a dumb shite. You copy pasted in a bunch of stuff that didn’t even answer the questions and were too stupid to know you didn’t even answer the question.

I had two questions. Not fifty. You answered zero.

I’m not a Chauvin defender. But pretending this was a cut and dry case of murder is asinine and infantile. Look in the mirror and you’ll see someone asinine and infantile.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:22 pm to
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He was killed by cops.


No, he died under police control from taking too much Fentanyl and resisting..
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14656 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:22 pm to
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I suggest you shut your rotten mouth, you pathetic know-it-all.


Ruh Roh... she Big Mad now.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90545 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:25 pm to
Dixrider alter.
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:28 pm to
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No, he died under police control from taking too much Fentanyl and resisting..


Two separate autopsies say he died from compression asphyxiation. Unless you're a criminal pathologist, shut up.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17418 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Unless you're a criminal pathologist, shut up.



No.

So, what now?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14656 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Two separate autopsies say he died from compression asphyxiation.

Which would have never occurred had he not taken too much Fentanyl and resisted arrest. Had he complied, he would never have been in the position he was in. He, and he alone, brought about his own death.
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Which would have never occurred had he not taken too much Fentanyl and resisted arrest.


How can you be so sure of that when you're not a criminal pathologist or coroner, and both autopsies say fentanyl had nothing to do with his cause of death?
Why are you so desperate to "prove" Chauvin is innocent? Would you feel differently if George Floyd was a white man wearing a MAGA hat?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14656 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Would you feel differently if George Floyd was a white man wearing a MAGA hat?




Not if he was a big a piece of garbage as George Floyd was.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15711 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Would you feel differently if George Floyd was a white man wearing a MAGA hat?


Would you? The same liberals who’ve basically canonized George Floyd as a Saint believe Ashley Babbitt deserved to die.
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:51 pm to
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Would you? The same liberals who’ve basically canonized George Floyd as a Saint believe Ashley Babbitt deserved to die.


No, I'm not a big fan of police, and in the past ten years or so they've killed quite a few people by excessive restraint for minor infractions.
I wouldn't say Ashli Babbitt deserved to die, but I would say she was killed by her own arrogance and stupidity, and I'd also say Trump was in some way culpable because she died believing his bullshite lies about the election, and wouldn't have been in DC that day if not for that.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157758 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 1:21 pm to
It’s bystanders. You fricking idiot.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37979 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 1:23 pm to
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Donny should have cracked down on them.

He had zero right to interfere in state issues.

At least that's what the Constitution says.

I do recall him offering federal help in many forms, and I distinctly remember predominantly leftist leadership balking at his suggestions or more commonly just completely ignoring them.

If Trump had chosen to take federal action, it'd have been an overreach and given the media actual ammunition to call him a fascist tyrant (but with a hint of credibility instead of the usual bullshite). As far as presidential powers go during that situation, he was painted into a corner and handled it about as well as anyone could have.
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