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Dept. of Ed considering narrowing scope of civil rights work

Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:31 pm
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Great idea, perhaps schools can get back to really educating rather than wasting money on pushing a hidden or not-so-hidden agenda.

Under the Obama administration, when a student complained of discrimination in a particular class or school, the education agency would examine the case but also look at whether the incident was part of a broader, systemic problem that needs to be fixed.

Proposed revisions to the department’s civil rights procedures, distributed last week among civil rights officials at the department, remove the word “systemic” from the guidelines.

The changes also would allow schools a greater say in how a case is handled, compared to the student or parent who filed the complaint, and would eliminate the appeals process.


The action comes as the Trump administration looks for ways of streamlining the work and trimming the budgets of many federal agencies. The administration has called for a $9 billion, or 13.5 percent, cut to the education budget, which would mean the loss of more than 40 employees out of about 570 at the agency’s Office for Civil Rights.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95741 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:35 pm to
Good.

The “systemic” bullshite just lead school systems to underpunish certain groups so they wouldn’t have to justify why X group was in trouble more than Y or Z group.

I don’t care if Thai Buddhist transsexuals have a higher incidence of suspensions than any other group in a school system. Treat the kid as an individual rather than as a group.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:36 pm to
570 people work in the civil Rights wing of the department of Educaiton?

Sheezamm
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:36 pm to
So civil rights is an "agenda" now.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76335 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:39 pm to
How can a kid learn anything if he’s being oppressed?!?!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95741 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:40 pm to
Glad this is happening, poor word choice in the title. I would have stated "civil rights investigations", because my first thought was going back to the civil rights era (Rosa Parks, etc) reading the article's title.

I guess character limit got in the way?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:41 pm to
Meanwhile, in 9th grade biology class....

*link to class assignment*




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Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:42 pm to

You're confused.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 3:45 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22382 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:42 pm to
Great news!!

GEOTUS doing work.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:10 pm to
Original title of article!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:11 pm to
Indeed, ask those Asian kids!
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:20 pm to
Wifeymom

The irony of all these educational problems is that that even if you relief a few civil rights cases it won't change anything.

Public schools rely on numbers for funding. Private schools love conservatives like you because it keeps them in business for (mostly) a similar quality of education.

I agree that people should be punished as an individual. I also agree that ANY system requires checks and balances.

This board would be better off to remember that whatever the GOP passes can always be used against them. What if several cases pop up against misbehaving white youths


This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:05 pm to
It's laughable that you are equating the quality of a public school education to that of one in a private school. After that assertion, the rest of your argument has not foundation to stand on.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

What if several cases pop up against misbehaving white youths


Depends on the nature of the "misbehaving" doesn't it??
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17468 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

What if several cases pop up against misbehaving white youths


Well does happen rarely. However, what happens far more often are false racist allegations perpetrated by a minority:

Fake Hate Crimes
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:15 pm to
BETSY MOTHERfrickING DEVOS

I'd munch her carpet anytime just to say thank you. I'd even hold eye contact.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98850 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:20 pm to
Great
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

It's laughable that you are equating the quality of a public school education to that of one in a private school. After that assertion, the rest of your argument has not foundation to stand on.



My fair lady, it depends entirely on the private school.

The issue is that most of these make you pay for preference, not necessarily education.

Multiple charter or private schools have a religious focus. The religious focus or in group preference is what they are selling.

This doesn't stop them from having qualified staff if they are good schools. However, some of them focus more so on the religious aspect rather than the "facts" of education. If you catch my drift.


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Just food for thought.... Oh and Happy Thanksgiving
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:56 pm to
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