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re: Dept of Agric wants sub machine guns

Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:40 am to
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. Lots of bad guys carry rifles so why would you want to send agents in lacking in firepower?


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If they need heavy firepower they can call upon the FBI or BATF to assist




I answered that in my post. Again its the Dept. of Agriculture. They should be doing inspections and research not policing.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:41 am to
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If would nice to know how many they want and why exactly do they need them.


Please read my post directly above yours.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:44 am to
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I answered that in my post. Again its the Dept. of Agriculture. They should be doing inspections and research not policing.


That is not part of the FBIs responsibility. The Dept. of Ag has it's own agents and they do not call other agencies when a problem arises. Should the Dept of Homeland Security call the FBI when they have an active shooter situation?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:46 am to
Government officials aren't allowed to defend themselves from right wing wacko bigots.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:49 am to
It's really starting to be alarming that every branch of our government is buying up so many firearms.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19324 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:50 am to
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Do we really want Mr. Kimball to have a weapon?




We'll let him conduct classroom training. It would take the first class 10 years to complete a one-week course.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135216 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:51 am to
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Lots of bad guys carry rifles so why would you want to send agents in lacking in firepower?


Close quarters combat. AKA SWAT raids.

Either that or they want something they can easily wield while in their vehicles.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:53 am to
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It's really starting to be alarming that every branch of our government is buying up so many firearms.


This is the point I'm trying to make. Does every government department need a police force that requires small arms and equipment on par with a military unit?
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:53 am to
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It's really starting to be alarming that every branch of our government is buying up so many firearms.


Which branches, specifically, are buying up so many firearms? I try to bring some measure of reason into this discussion every time I see it come up. Please don't blindly believe what you see posted on rendom internet sites that have agendas. The government is certainly far too big and bloated but there is nothing nefarious going on in relation to weapon and ammo purchases they make.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:55 am to
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This is the point I'm trying to make. Does every government department need a police force that requires small arms and equipment on par with a military unit?


I totally agree with you in regard to the number of law enforcement agencies we have within the federal government. I certainly believe many functions should be consolidated and certain agencies liquidated but as we all know governments generally don't shrink until they fold.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57588 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:55 am to
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mad cow?


Came here to post this!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112776 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:56 am to
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Government officials aren't allowed to defend themselves from right wing wacko bigots.


Hmmm, I've never thought of farmers as right wing wacko bigots.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:56 am to
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Government officials aren't allowed to defend themselves
Does it bother you that our Government officials have more leeway to use force against citizens than our soldiers in Afghanistan do against our enemies.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:59 am to
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Hmmm, I've never thought of farmers as right wing wacko bigots


Farmers have access to many volatile substances, that can be made into explosives, that the general public cannot purchase. Domestic terrorism does occur in rural America.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Does it bother you that our Government officials have more leeway to use force against citizens than our soldiers in Afghanistan do against our enemies.


No, because that is simply not true.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:02 pm to
Mr Haney would make a good profit on Craigslist for that toy after getting it for free.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135216 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Farmers have access to many volatile substances, that can be made into explosives, that the general public cannot purchase. Domestic terrorism does occur in rural America



That falls under the ATF. They conduct regular inspections at agricultural facilities.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112776 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Farmers have access to many volatile substances, that can be made into explosives, that the general public cannot purchase. Domestic terrorism does occur in rural America.


OK, name a farmer who committed an act of terrorism with an explosive in the last half century.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
Dan you are not bringing reason here you are making excuses. Can you please provide any information about a Department of Agriculture agent killed in the line of fire. This is one of the most absurd things I have read this week. Some meatheads want to play cowboy and have Joe taxpayer pick up the bill. This is almost as idiotic as BRPD needing a freaking armoured assault vehicle that can not navigate most streets and take hours to deploy. And for the record I am as pro gun as they come but there is no way to justify this nonsense at all.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:41 pm to
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No, because that is simply not true.
Really? How many times have police used the "I feared for my life" when shooting someone?

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For many troops, the strict rules of engagement — overlaid with tactical directives meant to limit civilian casualties — are a source of confusion and, they contend, are putting U.S. soldiers in greater danger. "We have all of these stupid rules that in the end wind up hurting more people. I mean, hesitation can mean death out here," says one disgruntled soldier serving in the volatile south.
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