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Dennis Prager makes a great point: Why Dems cheated
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:01 pm
LINK https://dennisprager.com/column/the-most-important-question-about-the-2020-election/
This has been my main driving reason I believe the election was stolen. They had to beat Trump, they have been calling him Hitler for 4 years and their lives were at risk, and Trump was responsible for 250K lives lost. How could they not cheat to get him out?
This has been my main driving reason I believe the election was stolen. They had to beat Trump, they have been calling him Hitler for 4 years and their lives were at risk, and Trump was responsible for 250K lives lost. How could they not cheat to get him out?
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:04 pm to burger bearcat
The problem is that none of that constitutes evidence. It’s simply a hypothesis.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:05 pm to burger bearcat
I've said this for months.
If you believe Trump is Hitler, you are obligated to cheat.
It's a moral imperative.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The problem is that none of that constitutes evidence. It’s simply a hypothesis
Well there's a mountain of evidence as well. Prager is simply pointing out the motive. All crime has a motive.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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evidence
"Evidence" - a very basic word -seems to have been morphed into a new meaning since November 2020....guess "debunked" was getting tore up too much.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:11 pm to burger bearcat
They cheated because well connected people make a frickload of money abusing the current system, including outsourcing jobs, trading with China, getting kickbacks, bribes, and other such treatment, and Trump threatened it.
Trump was bad for their business, great for American businesses.
Trump was bad for their business, great for American businesses.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The problem is that none of that constitutes evidence.
More or less evidence than for "muh Russia collusion"?
More or less evidence for "muh Ukraine quid pro quo"?
And before you say it, I'm not doing "whataboutism", I'm saying that those nothingburgers were investigated to the tune of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars.
This hasn't been looked at by anyone in an official capacity - at all. Just the procedural "standing" lawsuit dismissals.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:15 pm to burger bearcat
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Well there's a mountain of evidence as well.
There’s evidence of voter fraud to be sure, as there is in every election. But anything remotely on the scale and magnitude required to even potentially tip the results? Nothing of the sort has been produced.
Again, maintaining that Trump lost because of massive, genuine fraud does a disservice to the conservative cause going forward. It allows the left and the media to dismiss ALL critiques of the voting process under the banner of unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. They can then sweep everything under the rug and we’ll be in the same spot 4 years from now. In reality we need to accept that the democrats, in no small part due to the pandemic, stumbled across the opportunity to unleash the golden goose of mass mail in voting which resulted in de facto legal vote harvesting in some states.
We need to be focused on changing voting laws in this country, not fantasizing about illegal fraud to cope with the reality that the democrats gamed the system and won.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:15 pm to Federal Tiger
They don't believe he is a Hitler or Nazi. It is rhetoric that the media will tow the line with them. It is to push people away from Trump by making them feel they can't vote for somebody that is this vile.
The rhetoric and vitriol is not something they believe but just to sway people. You hear it enough in the media and people will believe it.
If they really believe he is a racist or a Nazi, they have a severe issue with definitions of these word.
The rhetoric and vitriol is not something they believe but just to sway people. You hear it enough in the media and people will believe it.
If they really believe he is a racist or a Nazi, they have a severe issue with definitions of these word.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:18 pm to burger bearcat
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Arizona Citizens Investigation Discovers Thousands of Phantom Voters in State – Up to 30% of Addresses in Investigation Were Fraudulent
LINK
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:21 pm to Roger Klarvin
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in no small part due to the pandemic, stumbled across the opportunity to unleash the golden goose of mass mail in voting which resulted in de facto legal vote harvesting in some states.
That by itself was unconstitutional and shouldhave thrown out the results in those states. That is without even having to look at the machines, dead voters, phony ballots. None of which has had a fair hearing anywhere or access to a true investigation. The machines were proven to hsve been setup to adjudicate votes over 100x more than the legal average in one county in Michigan.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
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But anything remotely on the scale and magnitude required to even potentially tip the results?
Less than 15k votes in GA, 90k in PA, 160k in MI and 25k in WI flips the election.
All states Trump won in 2016 and received more popular votes in 2020.
Now, can I say definitively that the election was "rigged"? No. But no comprehensive effort has been put into even looking at the claims. Rather than do that, the SoS of Georgia CHANGED POLITICAL PARTIES. In these states, "Republicans" have majorities in either the legislature, hold the Governor's seat or both.
And they ALL flipped back to Biden from Trump, by in a couple of case literally "just enough"? With all the questions coming out of the known voting farms of Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philly?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:23 pm to Auburn1968
Its laughable. Too much statistical anomalies we are fed to believe. J law “mkay” is all thats left
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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More or less evidence than for "muh Russia collusion"?
Of voter fraud on any scale? A lot more
Of fraud on the scale required to steal the election from Trump? The same amount, none.
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More or less evidence for "muh Ukraine quid pro quo"?
I mean, that did in fact happen. It’s just not an impeachable offense and not any different from similar dealings undertaken by every President since at least FDR.
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This hasn't been looked at by anyone in an official capacity
While this isn’t true, the evidentiary burden is on the individual making the positive claim. ESPECIALLY when that claim is extraordinary and unprecedented.
Saying that it must be proven that the presidential election WASNT stolen is like saying it must be proven god DOESNT exist or that Atlantis WASNT real. Until substantial evidence worthy of such a fantastic claim is provided, the null hypothesis prevails.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:28 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
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While this isn’t true
Well, the vote counters said, "Yeah, we counted them correctly." I'm talking about an independent investigation - by law enforcement, not auditors who just validate the counters just said, "we counted them correctly" - like the FBI did with a certain NASCAR issue last year or other important cases.
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Until substantial evidence worthy of such a fantastic claim is provided, the null hypothesis prevails.
I don't think you can have it both ways. You're reasonable and want to maintain your credibility so you concede, "Of course there was fraud - like there always is" - but then dismiss the notion that, perhaps, 80 million folks would like an honest, measured, clean look at exactly what happened, how extensive was it, did it make a difference and how can we minimize in future elections.
The fact is the powers that be (of both parties) don't want it looked into because they have a bad feeling about the results. The Uniparty was undefeated until 2016 (at least since Teddy Roosevelt). They're making sure they never, ever lose again.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
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While this isn’t true, the evidentiary burden is on the individual making the positive claim. ESPECIALLY when that claim is extraordinary and unprecedented.
All we were asking for was a forensic audit of the machines and the ballots. You realize the absurdity of your statement right? Investigating fraud of any kind never begins with the hard concrete evidence, it always starts with circumstantial evidence and anomalies. Howver there was direct evidence in a number if states as well including video footage.
The residents of GA, AZ, etc deserve to have their machines looked at that they paid for.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:36 pm to Auburn1968
These graphs piss me off. That shite does not happen
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:37 pm to burger bearcat
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That by itself was unconstitutional and shouldhave thrown out the results in those states.
This is with respect to the Pennsylvania case, and it’s just not true. Here’s a quality in depth explanation:
LINK
Act 77 was also passed by a Republican state congress, and even if it WERE to violate the state constitution it would be up to the state Supreme Court to rule on that. AND EVEN IF that had occurred, and the fallout were enough to flip the state, it still would have had no impact on the election result.
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None of which has had a fair hearing anywhere or access to a true investigation
None of the claims appear to have been substantive, and there is no reason to conduct an investigation to prove an election WASNT stolen. You conduct an investigation to attempt show the election WAS stolen IF substantive allegations arise.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:40 pm to Ace Midnight
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Now, can I say definitively that the election was "rigged"? No. But no comprehensive effort has been put into even looking at the claims. Rather than do that, the SoS of Georgia CHANGED POLITICAL PARTIES. In these states, "Republicans" have majorities in either the legislature, hold the Governor's seat or both.
And they ALL flipped back to Biden from Trump, by in a couple of case literally "just enough"? With all the questions coming out of the known voting farms of Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philly?
Again, none of this constitutes evidence. It amounts to “I don’t like this, therefore it doesn’t make sense, therefore it can’t be true so investigate it”. It’s just an attempt to rationalize away an unwanted election result.
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