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re: Dennis Prager makes a great point: Why Dems cheated

Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:42 pm to
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The claim that "totes full of ballots" were dumped while election officials stopped counting has also been previously debunked by USA TODAY and is not related to the earlier pipe incident.


Oh you hear that? It was debunked by USA today! They must have missed them actually “toting suitcases full of ballots” once everyone “didn’t” leave (wink wink)

This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:44 pm to
That debunking also ignores that the Fulton county officials referenced the water leak when they stopped counting. We didn’t make that up. They did.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:49 pm to
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“toting suitcases full of ballots”


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The claim: A video purports to show ballots being pulled from a 'suitcase' at a polling center

quote:

Election conspiracy theories abounded in the weeks after the 2020 election. Allegations of widespread voter fraud often used out-of-context images and unrelated documents to support false narratives.

A “smoking gun” video from a Georgia polling site purports to show poll workers fabricating and counting additional ballots after Republican poll observers had left for the night.

The conservative group Restoration PAC posted a copy of the video online and received several thousand interactions. USA TODAY reached out to the group for comment.

While some might find the actions of the workers at first confusing, the practice of storing ballots on-site is not unusual for poll workers, especially as ballots are being continuously tabulated over long hours. Election officials in the state have found no wrongdoing.

The viral surveillance footage was recorded at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena, which was used as a polling site last month. In the video, taken in the days after the Nov. 3 presidential election, site workers, reporters and poll watchers can be seen leaving as others begin packing ballots into containers, which were inaccurately dubbed suitcases.

The video of the activities of the poll workers is not doctored or significantly altered. Insinuations that workers were packing away these ballots for nefarious purposes, however, are incorrect.

In reality, the workers were not placing the ballots in suitcases, but their proper storage containers. They were doing this because they thought their work was done for the day, and they could leave.

“What you saw – the secret suitcase with magic ballots – were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee ballot carriers by the workers in the plain view of the monitors and the press,” Georgia Election System Implementation Manager Gabriel Sterling said, according to the Augusta Chronicle.

“They were under the misbegotten impression that they were getting to go home,” he continued. “They had been there all day long. They were tired and they thought they could go home.”

Learning the Fulton workers were planning to leave, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger made certain they did not.

Related claims that the ballots were somehow violated or made otherwise invalid in the process are unfounded. The actions on video are part of the routine ballot opening process.


USA Today
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:50 pm to
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That debunking also ignores that the Fulton county officials referenced the water leak when they stopped counting. We didn’t make that up. They did.




How tone dead does one have to be to post an article saying that them toting ballots in after everyone leaves was debunked WHEN THEY HAVE ACTUAL VIDEO OF THEM TOTING SUITCASES FULL OF BALLOTS HIDDEN UNDER A TABLE AFTER THEY KICKED EVERYONE OUT. It blows my mind how dense some people can be
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:51 pm to
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Again, we don’t investigate elections on the scale you’re asking for just because you don’t like the way something looks or sounds or smells. Using your criteria, every election since at least 1998 should have been investigated just as thoroughly.


Why don’t we? Because the House always wins.

Look, I do not participate in this UniParty® charade because it is a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. And I get that you despise Trump and generally seem to be of the opinion that his followers are drooling, thick-browed rubes.

Yet love him or hate him, Trump’s re-election threatened to forever implode the entire UniParty® House of Cards and the duopolistic political consolidation that has been carefully constructed since at least the end of the Cold War. If you can’t recognize that, it is you that are living in a fantasy world.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 6:40 am
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:52 pm to
Its always comical when some dunce throws out debunking artcles by the same people who’ve been the lying to us since Trump got in office . Bravo sir .
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:52 pm to
You can keep posting that.

It skips over a few important things.

1). The ballot cases were not secured when they placed them under the table. If they were leaving for the night, the boxes should have been secured with tamper proof devices to protect the chain of custody of the ballots overnight. They were not.

2). There was no state election observer and no party elections judges there for almost an hour as they tabulated votes. Is that illegal?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23280 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:54 pm to
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In reality, the workers were not placing the ballots in suitcases, but their proper storage containers


And yet, they were in suitcases hidden under a table away from literally ALL OF THE OTHER BALLOTS.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3684 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:55 pm to
I have zero doubt that people like Ruby Freeman felt obligated and talked with her cohorts about how important this particular election was to scheme and cheat.

They actually felt deep down they were doing nothing wrong.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:55 pm to
They probably got less than $15k apiece to pull that off. Quite a bargain.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:03 pm to
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USA Today


So it was not “suitcases” of ballots but official ballot storage containers? So freaking what?

This “debunking” ignores the fact that multiple poll watchers had been told the counting was concluded for the night and thus left. Yet the counting continued after the poll watchers had left the premises.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:04 pm to
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WHEN THEY HAVE ACTUAL VIDEO OF THEM TOTING SUITCASES FULL OF BALLOTS HIDDEN UNDER A TABLE AFTER THEY KICKED EVERYONE OUT.


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But the supposed “suitcases” were typical ballot containers used to secure ballots, Georgia’s Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs told us in a phone interview. Likewise, Matthew Mashburn, the state Senate’s appointee to the state election board, told us the video showed “standard secure containers that are ubiquitous in tabulation in Georgia.”

And Gabriel Sterling, the state’s voting system implementation manager, said that the full video showed that the containers were carrying ballots that were opened and processed earlier in the night. They weren’t suspicious ballots brought surreptitiously into the building, or ballots that were opened in secret.

“They were put in there about an hour earlier,” Sterling, a Republican, said by phone. He said of the Trump campaign: “They watched the same video tape.”


Factcheck
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:06 pm to
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TOTING SUITCASES


It wasn’t suitcases! It was official ballot storage containers!

dEbUnKeD!

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:10 pm to
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dEbUnKeD!


It was...

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But state officials told us that the full video shows the supposed “suitcases” were actually standard containers used to secure ballots, and that the ballots in question were opened and prepared for counting earlier in the night in full view of observers. They said the campaign presented limited, selective parts of the footage.

That’s based on their review of the day’s video footage in full. Also, even though observers from the parties and press left the room before vote counting resumed, officials said, a state election board monitor and investigator from the secretary of state’s office both returned to watch the counting until its completion.


Fact check
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7719 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:12 pm to
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FactCheck.org was launched in December 2003 by Brooks Jackson, a former Associated Press, Wall Street Journal, and CNN reporter who had covered Washington and national politics since 1970


You continue to embarrass yourself posting debunking articles from biased media figures but by all means please continue . Its amusing. Will
Snopes.com be next?
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17587 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:12 pm to
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Its always comical when some dunce throws out debunking artcles by the same people who’ve been the lying to us since Trump got in office


You must be a Russian bot!



Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:18 pm to
You are wasting your time. It isn’t about fraud really. It’s about a system and society that keeps lurching to the left and the fact that voting for the GOP the last 40 years has been at best a pause button and never a reverse.

People aren’t going to let go of what felt like the first real progress in their lifetime. There is nothing left to lose for these folks, nothing you consider “conservative” is satisfying to them anymore after Trump.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23280 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:21 pm to
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There is nothing left to lose for these folks, nothing you consider “conservative” is satisfying to them anymore after Trump.


There’s plenty to lose. He will come back around once the economy tanks because of a $15 federal minimum wage, higher oil prices and more energy dependency, unfettered illegal immigration, and universal healthcare.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:23 pm to
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Will
Snopes.com be next?


Fact-checking claims about Fulton County's election | These 'suitcases' are actually ballot containers

Washington Post

NY Times

Yahoo

Newsweek

I could post more links, but they all say basically the same thing.

DEBUNKED

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23280 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:25 pm to
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Washington Post

NY Times

Yahoo

Newsweek

I could post more links, but they all say basically the same thing.


Whoa, look at all those unbiased news outlets
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