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re: Dennis Prager makes a great point: Why Dems cheated
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:27 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:27 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Whoa, look at all those unbiased posters
FIFY
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:43 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Sure they do , now go back and post the multitude of fake news articles of the Russian collusion hoax they force fed you for 3 years and ask yourself is this the beacon of truth that you trust doing “ fact checks”? You really cant be this dumb that I have to tell you this .
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:03 am to Roger Klarvin
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The problem is that none of that constitutes evidence. It’s simply a hypothesis.
Evidence: Ruby tabulated over 18000 votes by herself in the middle of the night AFTER they told everyone that they had to close, due to a burst pipe. In GA it is illegal to count votes outside of the presence of challengers. Ruby ran the same batch of ballots through the tabulators multiple times. Trump was down less than 12,500 votes in GA.
We call this evidence.
In Wisconsin you can only vote absentee if you have a doctor claim you are confined. They specified that COVID does not count. Their state has average of 20,000 voters who vote this way. This election over 200,000 people voted this way. They have evidence that a majority of these people were not confined to their homes due to health reasons. This is also evidence. Trump was down less than 22,000 votes in WI.
PA has an area that counted 200,000 more votes than people voted. Trump was down approx. 70,000 n PA. This is evidence.
All of this evidence ignores all of the election laws that were violated.
To say there is not enough evidence to overturn this election is an outright lie.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:03 am to Roger Klarvin
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Roger Klarvin
First progs call you and Trump Nazis, then they gaslight you and say they never did.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:05 am to TigersOfGeauxld
You see your honor, my client only found these drugs and was on his way to the police station to turn them in when he was pulled over.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:08 am to DreauxB2015
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Some aspects of the dossier have been corroborated,[29][30] in particular its main allegations that Putin and Russia actively favored Trump over Clinton[31][23] and that many Trump campaign officials and associates had multiple secret contacts with Russians.
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The United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence released its final report on August 18, 2020. The report concluded that there were significant ties between the 2016 Trump presidential campaign and Russia. In particular, they noted that Paul Manafort had hired Konstantin V. Kilimnik, a "Russian intelligence officer," and that Kilimnik was possibly connected to the 2016 hack and leak operation. The investigation was led by Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) until Burr stepped aside for an unrelated investigation into allegedly illegal stock trades: Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) then led the committee.[
Senate report describes closer ties between 2016 Trump campaign, Russia
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A Senate Intelligence Committee report released Tuesday detailed significant ties between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign, particularly with former campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The fifth volume of the panel's much anticipated report, which is more than 950 pages long, examined "Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities” during the high-profile election race and marks the end to a sprawling investigation that began in January 2017.
Among the probe's newest revelations is that Konstantin V. Kilimnik, an associate of Manafort's, was a "Russian intelligence officer." Manafort's contacts also posed a “grave counterintelligence threat,” according to the report.
The Hill
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:19 am to Roger Klarvin
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golden goose of mass mail in voting
Looking for evidence of massive voter fraud?? /\ there it is /\
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:24 am to ChineseBandit58
Giuliani in Public: ‘It’s a Fraud.’ Giuliani in Court: ‘This Is Not a Fraud Case.’
Keep an eye on what President Trump’s lawyers say about supposed voter fraud while they’re in an actual courtroom.
Fifteen days after President Trump lost the election, there is no indication that any significant voter fraud took place.
That hasn’t stopped the president and his supporters from making all kinds of claims to the contrary. Over the past two weeks, there has been a whole lot of shouting, a deluge of legal filings and plenty of denial from Mr. Trump and his allies.
What there hasn’t been? Any real evidence that the election was unfairly decided.
The clearest tell that Mr. Trump’s effort is a security blanket and a prayer strategy is the difference between what Mr. Trump’s supporters say in the press and what they say in court.
On Nov. 7, the day most media outlets called the race for Joe Biden, Rudy Giuliani stood outside a landscaping business in Philadelphia, making false claims about widespread election malfeasance.
“This is a gross miscarriage of the process that would assure that these ballots are not fraudulent,” he said. “It’s a fraud, an absolute fraud.”
Under questioning from a federal judge in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, Mr. Giuliani made a different admission: “This is not a fraud case,” he said.
NY Times
Keep an eye on what President Trump’s lawyers say about supposed voter fraud while they’re in an actual courtroom.
Fifteen days after President Trump lost the election, there is no indication that any significant voter fraud took place.
That hasn’t stopped the president and his supporters from making all kinds of claims to the contrary. Over the past two weeks, there has been a whole lot of shouting, a deluge of legal filings and plenty of denial from Mr. Trump and his allies.
What there hasn’t been? Any real evidence that the election was unfairly decided.
The clearest tell that Mr. Trump’s effort is a security blanket and a prayer strategy is the difference between what Mr. Trump’s supporters say in the press and what they say in court.
On Nov. 7, the day most media outlets called the race for Joe Biden, Rudy Giuliani stood outside a landscaping business in Philadelphia, making false claims about widespread election malfeasance.
“This is a gross miscarriage of the process that would assure that these ballots are not fraudulent,” he said. “It’s a fraud, an absolute fraud.”
Under questioning from a federal judge in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, Mr. Giuliani made a different admission: “This is not a fraud case,” he said.
NY Times
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:25 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Quit vomiting on the board.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:33 am to cardboardboxer
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There is nothing left to lose for these folks
But see I believe there is. At present we are still far more “free” with respect to action and speech than virtually every other western nation. Our speech is far less restricted here than in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, etc. And we still have the chance to preserve that.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:37 am to Roger Klarvin
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At present we are still far more “free” with respect to action and speech than virtually every other western nation.
Conservatives don’t feel free. They’re having their speech censored on social media. They’re having their behavior restricted by public health dictators. And they’re being told their concerns are invalid.
Some of that is perception. Some of it is reality.
When dialogue stops, physical conflict starts. I’m not yet sure whether the left wants the conflict or doesn’t understand the trajectory of it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:40 am to ChineseBandit58
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Looking for evidence of massive voter fraud?? /\ there it is /\
If we define fraud as simply wrong and disingenuous then sure. But the problem is, in the VAST majority of cases, it was demonstrably legal. It was simply harvesting the votes of people who otherwise wouldn’t cast a ballot unless you gave them one to fill out on their couch and mail back. There is no evidence that most of these ballots were cast by anyone other than the voter they were sent to.
It’s why we need to focus on reforming the laws surrounding voting in many states. People with such low investment in the process probably shouldn’t be voting.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:41 am to Roger Klarvin
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was demonstrably legal.
It had the veneer of legality. Most vote harvesting has illegal aspects to it. Or it doesn’t work.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:43 am to Roger Klarvin
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Our speech is far less restricted here than in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, etc. And we still have the chance to preserve that
As has been pointed out before, freedom of speech does not mean freedom to shout fire in a crowded theater.
Saying an election was stolen without evidence, purposely resubmitting baseless claims that were thrown out in a prior case, and maneuvering to undo a free and fair election should have consequences.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:46 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Saying an election was stolen without evidence, purposely resubmitting baseless claims that were thrown out in a prior case, and maneuvering to undo a free and fair election should have consequences.
So what should be the consequences of the people who said Michael Brown’s hands were up and he was saying “don’t shoot?”
You haven’t thought your idea through even the tiniest bit. You just vomited some garbage out onto the forum.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:53 am to the808bass
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Conservatives don’t feel free.
I feel pretty free, man
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They’re having their speech censored on social media.
Some are, and I wish it weren’t so, but a majority aren’t. Social media is censoring on a macro level. A frankly I’m conflicted about their right to do this, because I consider a foundational principle of mine that our society must be defined by the government’s inability to micromanage the business practices of non-government entities on such a level. The nature of these platforms has changed, and our world has changed to such a degree, that I’m seriously having to re-evaluate that. But I’m still incredibly, INCREDIBLY weary of giving the government the power to step in and stop Twitter or Facebook from conducting business in some manner. That’s Pandora’s box IMO.
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They’re having their behavior restricted by public health dictators.
This has always been the case, most people just didn’t realize it until recently as a product of lifestyle. Most people just didn’t want to do the behaviors the government restricted. The last time such a common behavior was restricted was nearly a hundred years ago.
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And they’re being told their concerns are invalid.
I mean, it depends on where you look. There are entire mediums essentially dedicated to expressing these concerns right now.
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When dialogue stops, physical conflict starts. I’m not yet sure whether the left wants the conflict or doesn’t understand the trajectory of it.
This goes back to what constitutes constructive dialogue. At some point, somebody within every political party, social class, mass movement, etc. has to stand up and acknowledge that not all speech is equal in terms of productivity and meaning. Right now you have a part of the Republican Party begging for forgiveness for Donald Trump and blindly caving to left wing madness, and another part claiming Chuck Schumer has sex with the severed heads of nine year olds and personally rigged a presidential election. I hate to sound condescending but some of us feel compelled to try and being the conversation back to the adults table for fear of losing anything there may be left to salvage.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 12:56 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:54 am to burger bearcat
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The machines were proven to hsve been setup to adjudicate votes over 100x more than the legal average in one county in Michigan.
You mean the county that actually turned out to be in Minnesota, not Michigan?
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But there’s a problem, and it’s a big one: All 19 of the precincts cited in the affidavit are actually in Minnesota, not Michigan.
Detroit Free Press
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:00 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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freedom of speech does not mean freedom to shout fire in a crowded theater.
You actually can shout fire in a crowded theater, but that’s really beside the point
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Saying an election was stolen without evidence, purposely resubmitting baseless claims that were thrown out in a prior case, and maneuvering to undo a free and fair election should have consequences.
Not from the federal government it shouldn’t. I’ve traditionally been ok with social media platforms censoring what they wish to (though I’m beginning to reconsider that, given the impending oligarchy if we don’t). But the government has no business punishing non-violent speech, no matter how insane or illogical.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:07 am to the808bass
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It had the veneer of legality.
This is true for essentially EVERYTHING we take for granted legally in our daily lives. The claim that this specific scenario is somehow unique to our American experience is just special pleading
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Most vote harvesting has illegal aspects to it.
Thus why it isn’t technically vote harvesting, it just had the exact same effect. When you know your mail in ballots will be utilized overwhelmingly by democrats, all you have to do is make sure it’s legal to send everyone a ballot or make it very easy for anyone who wants to request one to get one. You don’t need to cheat in the literal or legal sense.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:09 am to Roger Klarvin
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You actually can shout fire in a crowded theater, but that’s really beside the point
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The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic. It does not even protect a man from an injunction against uttering words that may have all the effect of force.
Cornell Law School
Edit: I believe their saying he could be sued, if not prosecuted.
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But the government has no business punishing non-violent speech, no matter how insane or illogical.
The key would be proving incitement. That should be punishable.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 1:17 am
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