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re: Dems gonna try to convict Hegseth of war crimes?

Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Let’s get newsmax and oan to make some allegations and let the investigations begin!!


Jim Jordan is your man. Hit him up.
Posted by Bama Mountain
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
You are flailing especially hard this evening Barry.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
Swallowswell on line two Rexcatur
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
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but all of the strikes would be unlawful.


Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:02 pm to
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You are flailing especially hard this evening Barry.


How so? By pointing out the gaping hole in your “argument?”
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:06 pm to
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How so?


By confirming you have no idea how Congress works and trying to cover up your ignorance by spewing insults.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:06 pm to
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If what you posted about FTOs, use of force, etc is accurate (and it appears to be) then all of the strikes are unlawful. Double tapping survivors would be particularly heinous, but all of the strikes would be unlawful.


I agree legally, but I won't be trying the case. American presidents have usurped Congress's war powers since the First Barbary War in 1801. There is simply no institution that will/can check the President on this.

The double-tapping WAS particularly heinous, but I think the military (with the additional two strikes AFTER the survivors were killed) has the latitude to get around that.

Absent some audio of someone saying "no survivors!" I think Hegseth/Bradley skate...IF they establish that the mission was to DESTROY the boat.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:12 pm to
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By confirming you have no idea how Congress works and trying to cover up your ignorance by spewing insults.


We get it. You want random un sourced allegations from media to trigger congressional investigations. I think that’s silly, dumb, and naive. But…I doubt anyone has accused you of being smart.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:13 pm to
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your ignorance


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spewing insults.


dumb idiot.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:14 pm to
Like Obama calling a drone strike on Americans?

Careful what you think up.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:20 pm to
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However, I don’t trust unnamed sources…and that is all Decatur or anyone can come up with at this point.


Agreed
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:17 pm to
There’s going to be a big trial / tribunal but Pete won’t be the defendant


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Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:48 pm to
Hegseth's comments about the "second strike" boat. He handled it well.

Hegseth made the call for the first strike. Couldn't see any survivors.

"After an hour or two, I moved on to my next responsibility. A few hours later, I learned thar Admiral Bradley had made the decision to eliminate the threat and sink the boat. Which he had complete authority to do."




This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:18 pm to
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silly, dumb, and naive


Yet another insult filled, content free post. Congress has been doing their oversite obligation since the start of this conflict. This wasn't triggered by the media.

Hegseth has been refusing to answer their questions for a while. It has gotten so bad that Wicker and Reed released publicly a couple of they letters they recently sent to Hegseth By law the Pentagon is required to provide Congress with copies of “execute orders” within 15 days of the president’s issuing of them, Hegseth hasn't done that. Ignore your legal obligation to Congress for long enough and they will selectively leak to the media.


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:20 pm to
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they will selectively leak to the media.

There it is.
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:05 pm to
Oh noes!
fricking alters
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8046 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Congress has been doing their oversite obligation since the start of this conflict. This wasn't triggered by the media.


Thanks for the specifics and docs, Mountain.

What leverage does the Committee have? Can Hegseth stonewall them forever?
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 8:32 pm to
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What leverage does the Committee have? Can Hegseth stonewall them forever?


As I understand it the DOJ OLC finally gave Congress a classified legal opinion on the boat strikes a couple of weeks ago. Next week Bradley is supposed to brief the Senate Intelligence Committee. There have also been a lot of briefings to Congress, including by Hegseth. They are in catch up mode.

If the story that is being circulated is true, that Hegseth did not issue the order and Bradley did it on his own, then for me this story is done. I am not going to question Bradley's judgement.



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