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HailHailtoMichigan!
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democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
If the senate doesn't get DACA done by march 5th, it is on Dems

Period

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SDVTiger
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
Dems care about daca kids


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jamboybarry
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
:theyhavetogoback:


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indianswim
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
They overplayed their hand. Omarosa saw the ICE DACA plans. They are going into effect.


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Sentrius
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote



Good.

Trump's immigration proposal is horse shite. It's basically Reagan's 1986 amnesty on steroids and would turn Texas, Arizona and Georgia blue.


indianswim
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
It is and they are still rejecting it.


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BobBoucher
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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Good. Trump's immigration proposal is horse shite. It's basically Reagan's 1986 amnesty on steroids and would turn Texas, Arizona and Georgia blue.


I hate to break it to you, but this is as good as it will get. It's amnesty for whose here, but stops the bleeding which is key.

If you expect any immigration reform to include mass deportations- you're clueless. If this continues without legislation until the next time the GOP controls the presidency, senate and house, you're tryIng to make a deal with 10M daca kids. Not 2.

Take the deal now and stop the bleeding.
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geauxtigahs87
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
Solving this issue is the last thing they want right now

They're stalling in the hopes it remains an issue till the primaries so they can campaign on a "Republicans failed to fix immigration" platform.


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Sentrius
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If you expect any immigration reform to include mass deportations- you're clueless.


That's not even the biggest problem here and that's only small potatoes I can do without.

The biggest problem here is that it allows for sunset provisions where it would take us well into the 2020s long after Trump left office to finally and permanently end chain migration and the diversity lottery and that can be canceled any time by a GOPe or Democrat President.

I could reasonably stomach it if it called for immediate termination of those two programs and no sunset provisions. Those two programs are where the majority of the brunt of the excessive and and stupid immigration policies we have come from.

It's a terrible deal and Reagan's amnesty on steroids.


Sentrius
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
We're already seeing a spike in border arrests at the border thanks to Trump's irresponsible and stupid amnesty talk and constant bloviating about how he wants to "fix DACA"; that usually happens when you take away the deterrent of spoken language that's tough on illegal immigration and give up the farm to democrats just to win silly political points.


BobBoucher
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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The biggest problem here is that it allows for sunset provisions where it would take us well into the 2020s long after Trump left office to finally and permanently end chain migration and the diversity lottery and that can be canceled any time by a GOPe or Democrat President.


I agree - but don't lose focus. Those things will ALWAYS be subject to being overturned by a party that owns the presidency and congress.

You know what's a lot harder to do than put ink on paper? Deconstruct a wall. Get that wall, and drugs decrease. Crimes decrease. Anchor babies decrease. The wall will stay.

Can't eat an entire elephant in one bite.

So now you've narrowed your target to prevent states from turning blue (chain and lottery). That's much more manageable (another bite).

If this legislation doesn't get passed, nothing has been gained and it will only get worse when the pendulum inevitably swings.

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idlewatcher
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It's amnesty for whose here


How will it be determined who’s “here”? And what is to stop millions of others currently living outside the US from claiming they’ve been “here” as well?


BobBoucher
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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How will it be determined who’s “here”?


Dunno, but everyone seems to agree it's around 2 M. So they must have a way.


Colonel Flagg
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
I don’t like there not being some type of punishment for the fact people are here illegally; however, the process will take a long time to get total legal status.


RogerTheShrubber
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
Get your Trump valentines cards....immigration edition





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coonasswhodat
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
Thought you were sick and tired of all the political deciviousness and finger pointing that was tearing our country apart. Guess you was only kidding yourself.


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Wild Thang
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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Sentrius


Honestly, you can frick off. You have been on the wrong side for the last 2 years.

The debate has to involve some leeway or there will be no deal.

Let us MAGA and just stfu


SDVTiger
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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We're already seeing a spike in border arrests at the border thanks to Trump's irresponsible and stupid amnesty talk and constant bloviating about how he wants to "fix DACA"; t


what the frick


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alatxtgr
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
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Can't eat an entire elephant in one bite
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Anchor babies decrease.
This is the Elephant in the room...People without citizenship having kids in America and those kids being given citizenship is beyond reason and will have lasting ramifications down the road...


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udtiger
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re: democrats block GOP from setting up immigration vote
Good...good...


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