Dem Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion

Go figure it's Democrats who cross the line on how the concept of separation of church and state is ACTUALLY supposed to work.

If they do that then the muzzle comes off for good. DO IT!

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(D-CA)

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Stopped reading right there.

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The church has every right to deny communion to ANY member who violates church teaching on an issue as important as this

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This is what kills me the most... If you don't want to get in line with church teachings, then leave the church...

Pretty sure that is a violation of the 1st amendment.

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There is, however, a problem with the Church attempting to control the President of the United States in this manner.

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No there is not.

1)This has been Catholic teaching prior to there being a European foot set on American soil.

2) Biden can denounce and leave the Catholic faith any second he chooses too.

3) Biden is not a “devout Catholic” when he advocates for what does. Sorry. He isn’t. No if’s. No ands. No bits. Period. He is only “devout” when he is trying to rally Catholics to his cause. As soon as he leaves, it’s gone.

4) This from a fool who went ballistic at the lie about Trump and him being responsible for clearing out protesters in front of a church for a photo op. BTW.. you ever acknowledge this lie you kept peddling? You can.. ahem.. repent now.

What you want is for them to “””””evolve””””” in their faith.

Too bad Asterisk isn't a Scientologist, and they wouldn't let him hook up to those fraudy voltmeters.

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There's no basis for revoking the tax status of the Catholic Church no matter what they do here.

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Damn straight there isn't. Any implication otherwise would be an admission that the separation of church and state is a farce.

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There is, however, a problem with the Church attempting to control the President of the United States in this manner. This will (or should) cause some folks to seriously question whether the American Bishops are thinking clearly.

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I believe that's why they are currently drafting up a document. They haven't made any definitive statement/policy yet. But it's long been Catholic teaching that one should not partake of the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin, so it's not like the CC is just making up new rules. They're discussing the best guidance to give considering current circumstances and social/moral climate.

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(1) The Bishops obviously believe that Biden is a devout Catholic and that communion is important to him. If they don't then this isn't a threat at all. Their calculation is that communion is very important to Biden.

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Bishops are going to believe that communion is important to any Catholic, so I'm not sure what point you're making here.

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(2) The Bishops are proposing using Biden's Catholic faith and desire for communion with God as a tool to control the President and dictate the policy of the United States of America. The message is to Biden, "Do what we dictate or you will lose your communion with God."

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That may be what it looks like to you, but not at all what it looks like to me. I think the Catholic Church understands that abortion has become so casual and sought-after these days that the U.S. is in a state of moral crisis. These are the times where bright lines need to be drawn, and one can easily see how confusing it would be for the Catholic faithful to have a - supposed - Catholic POTUS who advocates for abortion. Now, you can argue that this may not be the best way to draw that bright line, but again the CC - if they were to advise the denial of communion to Biden - would be acting completely within the bounds of Catholic teaching. They didn't just make up this rule because Biden became POTUS.

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(3) This is a fool's play. While Biden is a Catholic, and desires communion, he will not permit the Bishops to dictate national policy. The Bishops will lose this fight.

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How is this an attempt to dictate national policy? What power does the US CC have to make abortion illegal? If they did have the ability, they would've done it already.

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(4) So the question I have is, why are they doing this?

No one has ever asked me in the communion line to declare my adherence to Church policies on abortion or anything else. That's because I am not the President. This is 100% an attempt to manipulate Biden, as President, under the hope that Biden will pledge allegiance to the Church above his allegiance to America. It's a mistake.

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I agree it's tricky ground because of the day and age we live in. But Biden is a public figure and has chosen to make his personal and political beliefs public. I absolutely agree that Catholics receive the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin all the time, whether they realize or not. But two wrongs don't make a right.

Biden has chosen his path. Like CS Lewis once said, if you're on the wrong path, you can't just keep moving forward and expect to get home. You have to go back to where you made the wrong turn and get on the right path.

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(4) So the question I have is, why are they doing this?

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The question of abortion ties into the very fundamentals of Catholic teaching. They have been very dogmatic and refuse to back down a bit.

Then comes Joe Biden, the president of the United States. He is high profile, has the influence to push their sincerely held belief, and he's Catholic. What does he do? Push the opposite.

They have every right to take this person who is doing very real damage to their doctrine, and censure him.