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re: DEI: How can it be dismantled?

Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
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No one is discriminating against white people. How can you even suggest that with a straight face?



Because it's true, despite what you wish to believe.

You cannot apply for this federal farm aid program if you are white.
University of Washington discriminated against whites and asians in hiring.
Yale discriminated against whites and asians in admissions.
IBM literally pushes racial quotas in their hiring.

See those? Those are current examples of actual racism being actively practiced. Not 50 years ago, not 40 years ago. Today. Now. By businesses, colleges/universities and the federal government.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:55 pm to
A BANK TURNED DOWN AN AFRICAN AMERICAN FOR A HOME LOAN TODAY!!

check.mate.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:00 pm to
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Wrong.

LINK


I'm not wrong. Once again you pulled old data in an attempt to portray it as current (thus why you keep getting proven wrong). Current data looks like this:

CURRENT Unemployment by race: Black 5.2%

CURRENT Unemployment by race: Hispanic 4.9%

CURRENT Unemployment by race: White 3.3%

CURRENT Unemployment by race: Asian 3.1%

How, exactly, is 3.3% less than 3.1%?

Aren't you supposed to be a teacher?
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:12 pm to
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I'm not wrong.

You may as well get this tattooed on your forehead. White men are never wrong. About anything. They’re just victimized constantly. Poor snowflakes can’t ever catch a break.

Maybe we’ll get a white male governor or president someday who will FINALLY address the historical and pervasive, well-documented discrimination against white dudes.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:17 pm to
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Aren't you supposed to be a teacher?

No way. You’re the teacher! You have. PhD in being a victim it appears. Please tell us more about how unfair the world is for white men. You have a captive audience of… other white men… who can’t wait to upvote your posts.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:41 pm to
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Addressing systemic racism in farming


The NAACP? Really? Dartmouth NAACP shuts down library in anti-white event

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The Dartmouth (Rachel Favors) reports on a protest organized by the Dartmouth NAACP chapter in a Dartmouth library. The protest, according to NAACP vice president Tsion Abera, “was meant to shut down the library” — bad enough on its own — but it apparently involved more than just that:

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Several students interviewed by The Dartmouth reported witnessing chants including expletives, such as “F**k your white privilege” and “F**k your comfort.” …
Two students reported that demonstrators entered their private study rooms and blocked the doorway, while others said that demonstrators singled out some students by name and circled around others’ desks while chanting. No students reported witnessing or experiencing any sort of physical violence, though some expressed that they felt uncomfortable or intimidated by the protest.



Next you'll probably try quoting the SPLC or the Black Hebrew Israelites.

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Class action lawsuit alleging discrimination filed against Navy Federal


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The complaint against Navy Federal Credit Union, filed in federal court in Virginia on Sunday, comes on the heels of CNN’s story, which found the credit union had the widest disparity in conventional mortgage approval rates between White and Black borrowers of any major lender last year.


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While CNN’s analysis did not prove Navy Federal is discriminating against borrowers, it did find significant racial gaps in the credit union’s mortgage approval rates.


So if blacks were turned down more than whites, your stance is that it can only be racism? It couldn't possibly be that blacks generally have the lowest credit scores of all races? Nor that a much larger proportion of them do not even own a single personal credit card?

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Schuff Steel Company to Pay $500,000 to Settle EEOC Race and National Origin Lawsuit


So one asshat's name-calling and then retaliating is how you're defining "systemic racism"?



If the racism was "systemic", the lawsuit would never have even gotten off the ground (unless, of course, your definition of "systemic" changes to fit the scenario).

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U.S. Marshals settle class action discrimination lawsuit for $15 Million


Funny how you left the term "decades-old" from that link. I mean, it's right there in the title of the article and reiterated again within the very first sentence.

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It was over 29 years ago


At best you've proven there are still racists, I don't know that anyone was saying they no longer exists but whatevs. You still have yet to prove "systemic racism" exists today.

There's been lots of posts in this thread so I may have missed it, but did you ever define what "systemic racism" actually is?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:53 pm to
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You may as well get this tattooed on your forehead. White men are never wrong. About anything. They’re just victimized constantly. Poor snowflakes can’t ever catch a break.

Maybe we’ll get a white male governor or president someday who will FINALLY address the historical and pervasive, well-documented discrimination against white dudes.


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No way. You’re the teacher! You have. PhD in being a victim it appears. Please tell us more about how unfair the world is for white men. You have a captive audience of… other white men… who can’t wait to upvote your posts.


You were wrong. Period. I proved you were wrong. I didn't do it in a crass emotional manner, nor did I do it out of spite. I did it simply with facts.

You didn't like being shown to be wrong so your response is now to go on an emotional tirade based on nothing more than race and gender biases instead of just admitting your error.

I think I've found proof of the "systemic racism" you've talked about. If you have a mirror handy, I can show it to you.

This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:56 pm
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:12 pm to
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When people say “systemic racism doesn’t exist,” there’s an implication that it has never existed.


What? This is like saying that if someone made the comment that dinosaurs don’t exist that what they’re really saying is that dinosaurs are completely made up fiction.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:12 am to
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Bump for 4cubbies, who forgot to respond.


She didn't forget, she couldn't handle being shown that she was wrong so she exposed her true colors with racist and misandrist screeds then stormed off in an indignant huff.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:14 am to
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Please tell us more about how unfair the world is for white men.


The thing about white guys, is you can change the world however you choose, some of us will overcome it.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:32 am to
I went to sleep.

The data I looked at showed whites had the lowest unemployment. You found data that showed Asians had lower unemployment by two tenths of a point. It looks like it waxes and wanes between whites and Asians.

I’m glad you found a reason to feel good about yourself though. No small victory.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:34 am to
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This is like saying that if someone made the comment that dinosaurs don’t exist t


If anyone said dinosaurs don’t exist, everyone would correct that person and say the truth, which is that they are extinct. No one would say “dinosaurs don’t exist.” What a stupid comparison that only proves my point.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:35 am to
I proved systemic racism is alive and well in this country.

Since you disagree, can you tell me the exact date that systemic racism became extinct?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:38 am to
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No, gravity is real, "systemic racism" as defined by you Liberal loons is complete fantasy.


Well it’s come to light that we do still have systemic racism. Its just not against black people.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:39 am to
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What actual discrimination have you faced because you’re white?
In a DEI thread, that is not a serious question, is it.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:40 am to
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The data I looked at showed whites had the lowest unemployment.
Did the data tell you why?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:42 am to
I would argue 4 cubbies is doing race based and sex based discrimination rt now.


Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:45 am to
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While CNN’s analysis did not prove Navy Federal is discriminating against borrowers


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