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re: Define white privilege. And how is it a "privilege"?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to constant cough
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to constant cough
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My neighborhood isn't any neighborhood. White people can't just go walk into any neighborhood there is at night.
What are you talking about?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to Hawkeye95
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White privilege is not a universal passport to everything, its just one area.
Your arguments and examples are a great example of why the "white privilege" theory is dangerous. First you try to explain how it is prevalent internationally then you explain that it only works in certain places or for certain things.
Like I said earlier, the whole thing is absurd because it can't be defined or quantified. It's based on emotion, fear and guilt.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to Hawkeye95
But how do blacks know that white privilege exists?
Whites will never know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes, yet this cross-race perception is available to blacks?
What if the clerk wasn't racist but was just having a shitty day or is just an a-hole? What if you just missed him turning away the homeless-looking white dude also trying to gain access to the shitter?
Whites will never know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes, yet this cross-race perception is available to blacks?
What if the clerk wasn't racist but was just having a shitty day or is just an a-hole? What if you just missed him turning away the homeless-looking white dude also trying to gain access to the shitter?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You need to get out more. A white guy cruising the ghetto late at night is seen as being there for only ONE reason by many cops. He most certainly WILL garner attention.
You'll garner some ghetto attention (for entirely different reasons) but not anymore police attention than anyone else.
quote:I live in f'n Alabama and I have two black families that live on my street. Their kids are out every bit as often as any other kids I see and at the same hours.
This is a pretty big rationalization. The fact is that a wealthy black man living in a wealthy neighborhood is going to tell his kids to stay close to the house after dark, and for good reason.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to constant cough
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Yeah right. That's if the police themselves would even dare patrol those neighborhoods at night. You're talking out of your arse here.
Im not defending the use of it as a crutch, but to deny that there arent inherent, largely unseen advantages to being born white in this country is just, well...an ignorance of reality.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
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What are you talking about?
The dumbass comment you made:
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White privilege is an inherent quality of society. It's being able to go for a walk around your neighborhood at night and not be looked at suspiciously or questioned by police.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:46 pm to ShortyRob
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You need to get out more. A white guy cruising the ghetto late at night is seen as being there for only ONE reason by many cops. He most certainly WILL garner attention.
I can speak intelligently on this precisely because many comments in this thread reveal just how much more Ive "been out" than many of you.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:46 pm to Mohican
quote:Let's be blunt. This ENTIRE "White privilege" meme is out there for exactly ONE reason and ONE reason only.
Whites will never know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes, yet this cross-race perception is available to blacks?
To justify continued policies designed to kiss the arse of minorities. PERIOD.
It isn't intended to make sense and it doesn't even matter to them if it makes sense. It only matters that it keeps the black vote solidly in the hands of one group and furthermore, is done under the hope of doing the same with other non-white groups.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:46 pm to constant cough
I never said anything about strolling into a random neighborhood as you suggested.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Im not defending the use of it as a crutch, but to deny that there arent inherent, largely unseen advantages to being born white in this country is just, well...an ignorance of reality.
No, it's not buying into your bullshite delusion of reality. I've never gotten any privilege or advantage from being white.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:47 pm to Mohican
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Whites will never know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes, yet this cross-race perception is available to blacks?
That is a very valid point. Prepare for the sounds of crickets.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:There are inherent largely unseen advantages to having smart parents.
Im not defending the use of it as a crutch, but to deny that there arent inherent, largely unseen advantages to being born white in this country is just, well...an ignorance of reality.
There are inherent, largely unseen, advantages to living in upscale(not rich) neighborhoods.
Regardless of race, having the above will place you above people who do not, regardless of race.
Anyone who doesn't get that is retarded.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I never said anything about strolling into a random neighborhood as you suggested.
No, you didn't I did. Of course I can walk around my neighborhood at night, that's why I choose to live there. But being white in and of itself doesn't mean you can just walk around any neighborhood you like.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:51 pm to constant cough
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No, it's not buying into your bullshite delusion of reality. I've never gotten any privilege or advantage from being white.
The problem is you are looking for a scenario in your life where someone walked up to you and said "Oh hey, youre white, here you go".
You have no idea how many times a cop has passed you and ignored you in a situation he would not have ignored a minority, you have no idea how many yeses you've gotten that would have been no's had you been a minority, you have no idea how many times the lack of a stereotype being applied to you opened doors, etc.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Im not defending the use of it as a crutch, but to deny that there arent inherent, largely unseen advantages to being born white in this country is just, well...an ignorance of reality.
Well, to those born with birth defects rendering their legs inoperable, being able to stand and walk is "an advantage in this country". But, we don't need to term all you 'walkers' as "Bipedal Mobile Privileged"
It is GOOFY to point at what ought to be and claim it needs or deserves some special term.
I say we call that 'privilege' as STANDARD. Any person or group treated worse than THAT are be treated in a SUB-STANDARD way.
White guy treated well: Standard White Guy
Black guy treated well: Standard Black Guy
Black guy treated poorly: Sub-Standard Black Guy
etc.
Privilege
horseshite
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You have no idea how many times a cop has passed you and ignored you in a situation he would not have ignored a minority, you have no idea how many yeses you've gotten that would have been no's had you been a minority, you have no idea how many times the lack of a stereotype being applied to you opened doors, etc
And neither do you cause you're talking out of your arse again. You're whole argument is based on the hypothetical.
Hey I don't' know how many times I've passed on a winning lottery ticket either. I guess I'm owned a million dollars.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:55 pm to Mohican
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But how do blacks know that white privilege exists?
Whites will never know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes, yet this cross-race perception is available to blacks?
It isnt about walking in someone else's shoes, its simply acknowledging that reality that two people in an identical situation can experience different outcomes because of their race. I know I've never been pulled over when I was legitimately doing nothing wrong whatsoever, but I know several blacks who I have. I was even in the car with one of them, when a police officer pulled over my friend because he felt his car was too nice for a 20 year old black college student to be driving.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You have no idea how many times a cop has passed you and ignored you in a situation he would not have ignored a minority, you have no idea how many yeses you've gotten that would have been no's had you been a minority, you have no idea how many times the lack of a stereotype being applied to you opened doors, et
And neither do you.
That's the problem with this notion. It's based on intangibles, assumptions (unfounded ones at that) and emotion.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:58 pm to constant cough
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And neither do you
Exactly
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:58 pm to upgrayedd
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And neither do you.
Absolutely correct
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