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re: Dec 22nd…Less than month to go and Trump does 180 on Ukraine-Russian war ending by 1/20/25

Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:03 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:03 am to
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That's not what you want Stripper


Thats exactly what I want.

You, being a Progressive cannot understand fiscal conservatism.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80344 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:04 am to
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LEVERAGE, he's using it to end the war.


True

Things said as part of negotiations don't always hold up well to fact checking.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107367 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:09 am to
Ole Leeeeroy doesn’t worry about things like leverage or plans. He just runs into a situation haphazardly screaming his name and taking on all comers.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46392 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:10 am to
Cool. Then you don’t want a peace deal. You want full and immediate separation which necessarily results in Russia taking the whole of Ukraine.

But those aren’t Trumps goals, nor have they ever been. So you don’t get to whine about problems you’ve invented in your head.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:12 am to
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Cool. Then you don’t want a peace deal. You want full and immediate separation which necessarily results in Russia taking the whole of Ukraine.


I dont care what Russia or Ukraine do, I am an American.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:13 am to
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Cool. Then you don’t want a peace deal. You want full and immediate separation which necessarily results in Russia taking the whole of Ukraine.


I dont care what Russia or Ukraine do, I am an American.
quote:


But those aren’t Trumps goals, nor have they ever been.


He needs to worry more about America than Ukraine or Russia.

If he does that, he will be a winner.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10042 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:13 am to
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Trump showed his total ignorance


Bruh, you better watch your back around these parts with that kind of talk
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46392 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:15 am to
Good for you. Now you can stop wasting your time trying to call out leaders for doing exactly what they said they were going to do just because you wanted something different. It’s disingenuous.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:20 am to
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Now you can stop wasting your time trying to call out leaders for doing exactly what they said they were going to do


Except thats not the case. Trump and MAGA flop on this constantly
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:21 am to
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Cranking up NATO funding will get Putin’s attention. THAT is leverage.

No, it's suicide.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22910 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:25 am to
So you thought he would end it in one day. Well, just to let you know there is this fat bearded man who flies around the world every Christmas. And he flies using reindeer.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:25 am to
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Cranking up NATO funding will get Putin’s attention. THAT is leverage.


We have a small arms industry now and we are hugely production limited. We can’t convert those dollars into weapons at meaningful rates.
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:30 am to
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Had Trump announced an immediate halt to all funding, they’d be melting about him handing Ukraine over to Putin.


This is exactly what he and Vance said they would do…listen to interviews with Tucker and Vonn.

Calling me a leftist is rich. Nice McCarthyism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:32 am to
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Calling me a leftist is rich. Nice McCarthyism.


Most of these rubes cant tell left from right anymore.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:35 am to
Calling ppl rubes when you didn’t vote. You’ll always be the smartest person in your own mind Roger.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:38 am to
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Calling ppl rubes when you didn’t vote.


Voting for crappy candidates is what got us here.

When Republicans start nominating Conservatives I'll vote for them again.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6507 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:39 am to
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Thats exactly what I want.



I know. I read it from your own posts. You are a libertarian to the bone. You want NO government at all.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46392 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:40 am to
That’s a lie. Trump never said he’d cut Ukraine off in lieu of a peace deal. Never. And a peace deal cannot happen in the absence of implied western support.

Why do you lie?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298253 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:42 am to
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And a peace deal cannot happen in the absence of implied western support.


Why do we care? Just cut off the funding, the war will end.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6507 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:43 am to
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Calling ppl rubes when you didn’t vote. You’ll always be the smartest person in your own mind Roger.


Roger doesn't vote because he does not believe in gov. Go read his past comments.

He is a libertarian with anarchist leanings.
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